Post by localgirl » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:06 am

Re: export/import tool:

Hi, I uploaded the admin and system folders plus the vqmod file but I can't change the permissions. The -'tool/export' isn't showing up in Admin permission Lists. What should I do to set the permissions? Thank you.

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Post by IP_CAM » Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:20 am

Check this link to find informations, possibly beeing of help:

http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=141849

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Post by localgirl » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:36 am

Thanks for your reply Ernie! I am going to remove the xml file I uploaded. Then try making the core file changes manually. Cheers. :)

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Post by IP_CAM » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:32 pm

I just downloadet the latest opencart-1-5-6-x-export-import-1-18.zip
and overinstalled it on my server, it seems to work, so far!? I had to enlarge the:
memory_limit = 640M;
in both of the php.ini as well as enlarging the Server Settings to the same amount on memory.
I will test my 15'000 Demo Product DB EXPORT tomorrow...

Here the Mods:
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... ort%20tool
And here some nice Info about it.
http://www.inmotionhosting.com/support/ ... t-products

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UPDATE. Ended up in an Error..., it finally only downloaded an Error-Message File...
So, read the following page:
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Post by IP_CAM » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:03 am

Update: 'opencart-1-5-1-to-1-5-6-x-export-import-multilingual-2-24.zip'
I just downloaded the latest version 'opencart-1-5-1-to-1-5-6-x-export-import-multilingual-2-24.zip'
the FORMERLY MISSING Export/Import Tool (V2.23) Controller File now exists.
Importing data has not been tested, Export now works well, but a 15K Product Listing requires a lot of time to be sampled and delievered to the PC. So, be patient... :D
it's a good Job - done, one just has to find out about all the options, what they mean and how they work :laugh:
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Post by localgirl » Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:13 am

Hi Ernie:

You're awesome! I'm going to trying uploading the most recent file as you suggest. I have a modified opencart interface (http://themeforest.net/item/stowear-mod ... me/7494228) and was concerned this is what may be causing the problem. The theme is very customized. Thanks so much for your kind time and attention! Laura.

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Post by localgirl » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:37 pm

:( No luck. I uploaded the most updated files but I'm still having the same problem, no listing in the permission lists. I see the tool in my OC menu but when I click to use it, I get a message saying I don't have permission. Any suggestions as how to fix this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Laura.

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Post by sunsys » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:21 am

@Ernie: thank you for your excellent work.

I hope you can guide me also in the right direction. I have an existing OC-1564 store with about 250 products running in the root of my server(http://www.mysite.in).

Now I want to just test out 2-3 new OC themes so I have loaded OC-1564 in 3 sub dirs called http://www.mysite.in/demo11, http://www.mysite.in/demo12 and http://www.mysite.in/demo13 and I want to upload all my existing product from the first store to these 3 new installations.

I have done the sql backup using myphpadmin as suggested here so now my issue is that how do I load the existing database to these 3 installs as the username and password are different of the databases so how to install the database to the new carts please advise.

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Post by rustyxy » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:29 am

I have the same issue. Anyone has an idea what to do?

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Post by sunsys » Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:33 am

Please can some body help me in this matter ?

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Post by Kinga17006 » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:22 am

Hi - I have a question regarding that extension. Does it copies files to new store or moves them all together?

1. I have one site (WEBSITE 1) that it is used and in working order at one host. It is operational and up so we want to keep it that way.

2. I have another site (WEBSITE 2) that I am building at other host so I want to copy the products, attributes, customers, orders, to this site that we building.

3. Does this extension copies files? I want to make sure that since I do not want to interrupt the operational site in any way.

Sorry maybe silly question but I rather ask first before destroy something while downloading. Thanks,

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Post by tigerclubwear » Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:02 pm

If you are finding that the Tool-export entry is not in your permission tabs, check within your FTP settings and ensure that your "FTP Root" is set correctly. For most hosting plans it should be /public_html

Set this, delete and reinstall the module and you should find that it is now there.

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Post by IP_CAM » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:34 am

sunsys wrote:Now I want to just test out 2-3 new OC themes so I have loaded OC-1564 in 3 sub dirs called http://www.mysite.in/demo11, http://www.mysite.in/demo12 and http://www.mysite.in/demo13 and I want to upload all my existing product from the first store to these 3 new installations.
Sorry for delay, I somehow skipped this, it did not longer show up in my Mails.
I don't really understand, why you install different shop Themes in different Shops, but anyway, you could use the same DB-values, defined in the config.php file DB-Section of your first shop. , as long as you do NOT add Mod's, in one of them, ADDING anything to the DB, unable to ba handled by the other test shops.

But you could also COPY/EXPORT the entire Content of your existing DB, and re-import it into a CLEANED OUT DB, created for the other Shops, by use of your MySql-Admin. You THEN also have to MOVE the images, used in the first shop, to the other shops, in order to have a correct Setup.

BUT TO AVOID such work, you could check my Front Page of:
http://www.bigmax.ch/shop/
and read about SUBDOMAIN IMAGE HOSTING, by clicking the link to it. Then, you will not only have a faster loading Shop, you also don't have to repeatetly fill up your Server with the same images, all over.

Check here about more info on the v.1.5.6.x Verions ways of doing it...
http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 05#p549205

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Post by sunsys » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:01 am

Thank you for your reply Ernie, some basic questions,

1. When testing a new theme on clean install of OC-1564, should I first upload all the data(method as suggested by you) and then install the theme or is it the other way round that I install the theme first and then upload all the data. Which is the correct way of doing it ?

2. Is it possible to uninstall a theme or what, cause I see that themes are huge in size and do a lot of core changes so can I revert back to clean OC or do I just delete the complete OC install and upload a new OC for testing.
IP_CAM wrote:...why you install different shop Themes in different Shops

I just want to see how different themes will look side by side that's all.
IP_CAM wrote:...as long as you do NOT add Mod's, in one of them, ADDING anything to the DB, unable to ba handled by the other test shops.
I did not quite follow this line, what do mean by " add Mod's" ?
IP_CAM wrote:You THEN also have to MOVE the images, used in the first shop, to the other shops, in order to have a correct Setup.
When I do a backup using myphpadmin, will the images also not get backed up automatically ?

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Post by IP_CAM » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:31 am

Themes are not created equal, on a defined Standard, that's the Problem. Depending on the Customisation, possibly down to the last Custom information Template, or even adding entire new Modules, a Theme can actually replace the entire DEFAULT Theme Section, not longer using one single File, or Script, or image, but a Theme may also consist only of a few MAIN Pages, like Home, Categories, Products, Header and Footer, everything else is taken from the DEFAULT Template Sections.

Therefore, your answer cannot be replied to, it depends....!

Uninstallation is exactly the same, if a Theme ONLY contains SUBS and FILES for/in such a SUB:
C:\JTI_Servers\bigmax.ch\shop\catalog\view\theme\adefault2
then, you just remove the entire adefault2 Subdirectory with all it's subs and files, and it's done. Basically, because usually, in the Admin Image section, a thumb of the Theme will stay, if you don't remove it manually.

Other Themes, actually adding some Files into Controller/Model/Language/System/VqMod/e.t.c./ Sections, Admin included, even, in Part, replacing existing DEFAULT files, are much more difficult to handle. One has to compare exactly, by use of the File-content of the CUSTOM THEME, what has to be removed where. And, before even doing such a THEME UPLOAD, one has to make SURE, not uploading something, thereby eventually overwriting existing Default Files, without making a Backup first!!

>> I did not quite follow this line, what do mean by " add Mod's" ? <<

A Mod can be Anything, added in any form, to OC, like a VqMod, a Module, like a Theme, anything, not already existing, by Default, affecting something, visible or invisible, somewhere. Anything!

>> When I do a backup using myphpadmin, will the images also not get backed up automatically ? <<

MyPHP ist a Database Tool. Imagine a large File, like a regular Page, from #1, down to whatever, containing individually counted masses of single, partly just about never ending, lines, with all the Data, related to your Shop. Each Line has it's individual purpose, contains it's individual 'Information Content'. As Data, actually written as/like regular Numbers and Text. The Content is Section-Sorted, and Sub-sorted, explained and clearly presented, at least on the printout.

As an example on how much it takes, for a DB, eliminating JUST all Countries+State related lines, exept for Germany, Austria and Switzerland, reduced the (new, default) DB-Size by ~4'200 such lines, from ~820 down to less than 300 KB File size! That's efficienty, in the later, heavier turn, possibly to come... ;D

Image Links are linked, starting from the configured INDSIDE URL, (call it path, if you like) so, not 'fully' externally HTTP-adressed, so, when called from another URL, the Shop would then look for the image inside it's own Site URL, and so produce an image not found error.

Exept, if you use the Mod to call all images from one only Image.subdomain, all so AS HTTP ADRESSED Images. This makes great sense, the 'multitasking' Download functions of Browsers enable much faster Page Loads, this way, for ANY SITE. Basically, this should be installed by default on OC. Or, at least as default Image-Turbo-OPTION! :-\

Images are individual DATA Files, the DB has no influence to/on their existence, it just remembers/reflects their 'told to be there' position, It cannot even check for 'em, it's just a piece of Paper with written information on it ;D

And just to complete it: Some Themes MAY modify your DB. Possibly in a Way, you don't like. Because, when coming back, you will have to work, to make it, as it has been before. This seems to be the Case, especially, with some popular, paid Themes, offered for free on some Sites. And since no Rules exist, on the Web, just take Care, whatever you do! You never know, who's watching you...

Ok, I hope it helps!
Ernie

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Post by sunsys » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:29 am

Ernie I really appreciate the time you have put in to write detailed explanations. Thanks a lot.
IP_CAM wrote:A Mod can be Anything, added in any form, to OC, like a VqMod, a Module, like a Theme, anything, not already existing, by Default, affecting something, visible or invisible, somewhere. Anything!
So does this mean that I have to remove all the vqmods that I have running on my site now and then I should do a database backup ?? and then do I install all the vqmods again to the new install.
IP_CAM wrote:Image Links are linked, starting from the configured INDSIDE URL, (call it path, if you like) so, not 'fully' externally HTTP-adressed, so, when called from another URL, the Shop would then look for the image inside it's own Site URL, and so produce an image not found error.
So then how do I do or take a backup of my images ? and what is mysqlbuddy as seen in your image, I do not have that in my cpanel in that case how do I backup my images please advice.
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One query remained unanswered: what do I do 1st in the new install, restore the database 1st and then apply the new theme or apply theme 1st and then restore the database ?

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Post by IP_CAM » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:12 pm

sunsys wrote:So does this mean that I have to remove all the vqmods that I have running on my site now and then I should do a database backup ?? and then do I install all the vqmods again to the new install.

You would not have to REMOVE them all, you could just disable them, by Use of one of the VqMod-Tools, available. It, technically, simply add's a '_' to the whatever.xml title, to make it look like whatever.xml_, then, this Mod is switched inactive, in/for OC, and it will display, as DISABLED, in the VqMod Tool as well. And despite of the warning/info, shown, when clicking to disable, it will NOT remove a Mod, or a Module. So, don't worry... ;)

http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... on_id=2969
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... on_id=8247
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... on_id=4267
So then how do I do or take a backup of my images ?
You use your FTP-Client, to DOWNLOAD the entire /image/Section, including it's Sub-sections, then, you have all images on your PC, ready to be uploaded anywhere, again, into the /image -Section.
and what is mysqlbuddy as seen in your image, I do not have that in my cpanel in that case how do I backup my images please advice.

This Extension linked does NOT ONLY incorporate a VqMod-Manager, called TWEAKS, as well, it also incorporates a SIMPLE DB-Tool, called MySql-Buddy. It's an easy way, but possibly, if you are familiar with a Site MySql-Admin Tool, use it, it's more flexible, compared with an OC Mod-type built-in DB-Manager. BUT BE AWARE: I.E., downloading/exporting/importing a DB by Use of 'mysqlbuddy' can be a complicated, possibly impossible, matter, because of the amount of Server-Memorey used, for such a Task. You should therefore ONLY USE the Site Admin MySql Admin for such Tasks, then, you'll know for sure, that the DB will be 'handled' well!

Still, for a fast simple check, or Mod, I love the Buddy! It's one of those nice Gatchets, the free OpenShop Extension offers. I love it, and build no Shop without it!

http://openshop.org.ua/information/news&news_id=18
One query remained unanswered: what do I do 1st in the new install, restore the database 1st and then apply the new theme or apply theme 1st and then restore the database ?

After a NEW Installation, you could restore the DB first, to find out, if everything works, by Default. But again, make a copy of the DEFAULT DB. first, always!! Success will depend on Add-On's and Mod's, used before, possibly ADDING some Tables, when installed, in the old Place, and so, eventually, producing some errors, after the MySQL-Admin DB-Restore-Process. Since no 'required' Standards exist, for OC, one never knows, what has been done, to it, by some Mod-Designer, used to do such, it's own, personal, way! :crazy:

Then, if it works, make a Backup of the new DB as well, and start to activate VqMods, and/or other Module-Additions, on after one, and check everytime, after you installed something, if it really works. If everything functions, install your Custom Theme.

Good Luck
Ernie

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JUST TO MENTION IT, we drove OFF Track, the last few Posts where not longer related to the 'Theme', actually,
>> The -'tool/export' isn't showing up in Admin permission Lists. What should I do to set the permissions? <<
so, hopefully, noone got mixed up...:o

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Post by sunsys » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:31 am

IP_CAM wrote:PS: JUST TO MENTION IT, we drove OFF Track, the last few Posts where not longer related to the 'Theme', actually, >> The -'tool/export' isn't showing up in Admin permission Lists. What should I do to set the permissions? <<
so, hopefully, noone got mixed up...:o
No Ernie, who will object to such detailed and indepth explanation and I thank you once again for your time.
IP_CAM wrote:Then, if it works, make a Backup of the new DB as well, and start to activate VqMods, and/or other Module-Additions, on after one, and check everytime, after you installed something, if it really works. If everything functions, install your Custom Theme.
Ok fine so I have got a fair understanding of the way things work or should work. Ernie one last thing, is this principle(1st install > 2nd database > 3rd theme) also valid for big major themes like "Journal - Advanced Opencart Theme" where major changes are done to basic OC I should follow the same principle(1st install > 2nd database > 3rd theme) and everything will go smoothly to the new installation.

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Post by IP_CAM » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:39 am

I cannot judge on ANY Journal Theme, I only see, how much problems they seem to raise. In addition, I just commented another post, regarding Journal Themes, you'll find some, filled with 'garbage', whatever that means, all over the place, for free, so I really don't know, what to think... ???
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