[SOLVED] - Options are automatically selected on page (product page) load

Hello, what I saw happening is when you have options on a product then the first option is always automatically selected on page load, is there a way to disable that? (latest OC version 3.0.3.2)

For example, if the customer see a product on the homepage with a price listed, then once they click on the product to see the product page then the price is higher i.e. options is automatically selected, this issue is annoying.

Best Regards,

Please provide a screenshot / URL of the exact location you are referring about. However, if it is under the admin page you are providing a URL, ensure to only provide the route name.

If you mean dropdown field, then this is absolutely normal. This is how they always worked since the birth of Internet.

thekrotek wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:51 pm

If you mean dropdown field, then this is absolutely normal. This is how they always worked since the birth of Internet.

Yes but if you want to force the customer to make a conscious choice, usually you populate the first option with --- or --- Select --- etc.

Hello, thank you for the replies, it seems the Journal template has on option to have the first option pre-selected, after I turned it off the web page behaved normally.

markuswest wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:21 am

Hello, thank you for the replies, it seems the Journal template has on option to have the first option pre-selected, after I turned it off the web page behaved normally.

One of the many reasons we all advise against it.

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:02 pm

One of the many reasons we all advise against it.

Why? Because Journal does offer an option for it?
And who is "we all"?? Please feel free to make a list out of the 121808 users in this community!!

The Journal template is magnificent

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:31 am

Why? Because Journal does offer an option for it?

No, because it doesn't follow generally accepted web standards such as not pre-selecting an option from an HTML select input.

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:31 am

And who is "we all"?? Please feel free to make a list out of the 121808 users in this community!!

All of the most respected OpenCart developers:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=157098

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:31 pm

No, because it doesn't follow generally accepted web standards such as not pre-selecting an option from an HTML select input.

All of the most respected OpenCart developers:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=157098

I was going to reply by coming down to your level, but then I realised that you are not worth my time! You didn't answer the questions and you are just regurgitating the same pointless (from a consumer and a clever developer point of view) unnecessary replies.

Your personal feelings about Journal added nothing to this thread or helped markuswest in fixing his problem, other than showing your severe struggle with a simple concept. There are thousands of people using Journal and as a developer no one pays you for your opinion (you probably wish they did by now). They would pay you, if you were actually positive about working with their system.

But it seems that you can't! You are failing! I'll finish this with a post from another user that really summed it up pretty well:

Basically there are 2 type of coders.
those who tell you you have a crap site (journal theme)
and those who are willing, and have the capability to think in solutions and solve your problem.
ive met both
first group will never get a job.
second group will earn a good deal of money.

Pick your group Paul, but I beg of you, stop pretending that you care about the users of this community, where clearly, your wallet is making you blind!!

While I got you here, could you please point out the chapter or reference in the Web standard, where it clearly states that you are not suppose to "preselecting an option from an HTML select input" as you stated above?
I can't seem to find such reference. Thank you.

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:41 am

no one pays you for your opinion

As a consultant that's exactly what they pay me for

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:41 am

Basically there are 2 type of coders.
those who tell you you have a crap site (journal theme)
and those who are willing, and have the capability to think in solutions and solve your problem.
ive met both
first group will never get a job.
second group will earn a good deal of money.

Hilarious, yet I've run a successful and profitable OpenCart agency for the last 10 years after a successful career as a senior web developer for FTSE 100 blue chip companies for many years before that. What's your professional experience?

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:41 am

While I got you here, could you please point out the chapter or reference in the Web standard, where it clearly states that you are not suppose to "preselecting an option from an HTML select input" as you stated above?

It's not part of the HTML standard but it is generally accepted that it's better not to pre-populate fields with default data if you require the user to make a conscious choice.

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:25 pm

It's not part of the HTML standard but it is generally accepted that it's better not to pre-populate fields with default data if you require the user to make a conscious choice.

Question then.... why is the country field auto populated with the stores country_id when you register to an opencart shop?
Surely this should be “please select” just like the zone field is?
Sorry to intrude on your argument

cyclops12 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:24 pm

Question then.... why is the country field auto populated with the stores country_id when you register to an opencart shop?
Surely this should be “please select” just like the zone field is?
Sorry to intrude on your argument

Seems like a sensible guess to assume most customers are in the same country as the store.

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Basically there are 2 type of coders.
those who tell you you have a crap site (journal theme)
and those who are willing, and have the capability to think in solutions and solve your problem.
ive met both
first group will never get a job.
second group will earn a good deal of money.

This comment wasn't mine but one of the many going around the forum. If you did paid attention, you would have notice that. It is probably address to you and all the other developer, that instead of developing are simply whingeing about Journal...

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:25 pm

It's not part of the HTML standard but it is generally accepted that it's better not to pre-populate fields with default data if you require the user to make a conscious choice.

Thank you for confirming that you often lie to make your posts more credible...

Another member on this forum called you "Pretentious boy".. I will start to call you "Pinocchio"..

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:32 am

Another member on this forum called you "Pretentious boy".. I will start to call you "Pinocchio"..

Saying "generally accepted web standards" is not the same as "the HTML standard".

As you can't code you should probably refrain from commenting on things you don't understand.

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:09 pm

Saying "generally accepted web standards" is not the same as "the HTML standard".
As you can't code you should probably refrain from commenting on things you don't understand.

You see Pinocchio, I understand pretty well, and more than you will ever do... That's why I have stop giving you and your posts any value..
But perhaps is you, that should stop filling all the various forums constantly nagging and begging people to hire you as a professional!
That's not being professional. That's just being desperate!
Anyhow, people around here can easily see what I see and make their own judgement on your "professional" conduct around here...
Perhaps if you did stop lying, stop begging, and offer HONEST, REAL and UNBIASED advices, as people in a community forum SHOULD DO, perhaps then, your business will improve and people will start to believe in you again.. But I don't think you are capable of it. Otherwise you wouldn't find yourself in such a mess, forced to defend yourself from people accusing you of being a joke..
Your life, your business, your choices!!

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:40 pm

Perhaps if you did stop lying, stop begging, and offer HONEST, REAL and UNBIASED advices, as people in a community forum SHOULD DO, perhaps then, your business will improve and people will start to believe in you again..

Thanks for the business advice, so what's your background?

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:32 pm

Thanks for the business advice, so what's your background?

You are welcome..

But it is not a business advice, just simply plain common sense.. I don't think you need business advices.. You just need to stop coming on, sounding so desperate every time you reply to a post.. Try to stick to the point... I know it is hard sometime, because you have a business and you need cash to survive.
But I honestly think, that you shouldn't need to lie, if you are serious about being a professional... Look around you, there are several other Developers around here, not pushing as hard as you do, for a desperate consultation, and they seem to do just fine..

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 am

You just need to stop coming on, sounding so desperate every time you reply to a post..

Where do I appear desperate? Usually I give an answer to the problem if I can, but if it's more complex I suggest they post a paid job in the Commercial Support Forum, which is good advice if it's a problem that really needs a developer to take a look. I rarely ask anyone to PM me.

Burt65 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 am

But I honestly think, that you shouldn't need to lie

I've explained why what I said above was factual. Why, as a non-developer, do you think you're qualified to question me on a technical point?

I notice you never answered this:

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:32 pm

so what's your background?

paulfeakins wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Where do I appear desperate? Usually I give an answer to the problem if I can, but if it's more complex I suggest they post a paid job in the Commercial Support Forum, which is good advice if it's a problem that really needs a developer to take a look. I rarely ask anyone to PM me.
I've explained why what I said above was factual. Why, as a non-developer, do you think you're qualified to question me on a technical point?
I notice you never answered this:
so what's your background?

Your nose is getting longer and longer..
Don't need to be a developer or being qualify to recognise a bullshit artist... You are really playing the developer card a lot. Does it make you feel more important, or a better person. Perhaps that's all you have to play with...
You notice I didn't answer your unrelated question... That's great.
Again, stick to the point...

Talk to you tomorrow, my little wooden friend...