Post by Qphoria » Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:43 am

Well I appreciate giving the attitude :)
There are no immediate plans for re-adding Auspost. We apparently weren't keeping it up to date so we just removed it so that the original author could handle it

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Post by gocreative » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:00 am

No problem. Do you have plans to overhaul/improve the extension installation procedure? i.e. allow extensions to be installed, configured and uninstalled via the admin system? To me, this is one of the major flaws of OpenCart.

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:04 am

furiousweebee wrote:No problem. Do you have plans to overhaul/improve the extension installation procedure? i.e. allow extensions to be installed, configured and uninstalled via the admin system? To me, this is one of the major flaws of OpenCart.
Well I think you are overdramatic. They are already installed, configured, and uninstalled via the admin system. I assume you just want the ability to upload via a zip file, which I do also have working, and might make it into 1.4.8. But copying 2 folders over to FTP is not quite a "flaw" but a minor inconvenience that the majority of web scripts share with the exception of SMF, Wordpress, and a few others

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Post by Xsecrets » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:14 am

Qphoria wrote:
furiousweebee wrote:No problem. Do you have plans to overhaul/improve the extension installation procedure? i.e. allow extensions to be installed, configured and uninstalled via the admin system? To me, this is one of the major flaws of OpenCart.
Well I think you are overdramatic. They are already installed, configured, and uninstalled via the admin system. I assume you just want the ability to upload via a zip file, which I do also have working, and might make it into 1.4.8. But copying 2 folders over to FTP is not quite a "flaw" but a minor inconvenience that the majority of web scripts share with the exception of SMF, Wordpress, and a few others
I too would like to see an admin based upload system, but I'm in no rush for it. I would love to see some way to dynamically add items to the admin menus though. Of course all of this could wait for 1.5 as far as I'm concerned. The fact that we are getting a good push to eliminate bugs and have a rock solid release has me stoked for the future of opencart.

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:25 am

Yea the admin menu is a trickier one. I requested for a db-based admin menu
http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 48&p=25972

And even used that design in chromiumcart. It worked great imo. New menu entries were added via insert sql statements and were fully language specific. Daniel wasn't thrilled with the idea last I talked to him about it (when i first requested it). It would take a lot of begging from you guys. ;)

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Post by gocreative » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:02 pm

Qphoria wrote:
furiousweebee wrote:No problem. Do you have plans to overhaul/improve the extension installation procedure? i.e. allow extensions to be installed, configured and uninstalled via the admin system? To me, this is one of the major flaws of OpenCart.
Well I think you are overdramatic. They are already installed, configured, and uninstalled via the admin system. I assume you just want the ability to upload via a zip file, which I do also have working, and might make it into 1.4.8. But copying 2 folders over to FTP is not quite a "flaw" but a minor inconvenience that the majority of web scripts share with the exception of SMF, Wordpress, and a few others
That's not entirely true. Many of the extensions I've downloaded and installed for OpenCart have involved manually editing templates, language files, controller files, and so on. I realise that, once added to OpenCart, an extension can be installed and configured, but the problem is getting it to that point to begin with. Most major systems, such as those you mentioned, allow the user to simply upload some files to the server (or even directly through the system) and then perform an automatic installation. Additionally, compatibility or upgrade issues are reported by the system for each extension.

I don't have any other major concerns with the software, but one of the keys to open source software is extensibility. Keep the core features, let users add whatever else they want to - quickly and easily. This does not currently happen in OpenCart, which is why I believe it to be a major flaw. It is not simply a minor inconvenience to manually apply the same modifications to various files on a large number of OpenCart installations, each running different versions, and each with their own set of modified files. It becomes incredibly difficult to manage.

If you have a solution coming, that's great. But in the meantime, learn to take criticism.

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Post by Xsecrets » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:20 pm

Qphoria wrote:Yea the admin menu is a trickier one. I requested for a db-based admin menu
http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 48&p=25972

And even used that design in chromiumcart. It worked great imo. New menu entries were added via insert sql statements and were fully language specific. Daniel wasn't thrilled with the idea last I talked to him about it (when i first requested it). It would take a lot of begging from you guys. ;)
yes I remember that thread, and it sounded like a great idea to me. It's rather crazy that you can't create a simple report mod without having the user edit three files.

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Post by OCyvon2 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:51 pm

Small change in login language file! This is for new customer account which has not approved yet.

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$_['error_login'] = 'Error: No match for E-Mail Address and/or Password, or your new account is not approved yet.';

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Post by sirskull » Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:56 pm

Somebody can explain to me this function? Please. I dont know what is shipping quotes.
Use Shipping Session:
Saves shipping quotes to session to avoid re-quoting unnecessarily. Quotes will only be re-quoted if cart or address is changed.( YES/ NO)

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Post by Tiger1937 » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:30 pm

Auto Upgrade.... A PLEASURE TO USE !!! WORKED PERFECTLY ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Post by gocreative » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:46 pm

sirskull wrote:Somebody can explain to me this function? Please. I dont know what is shipping quotes.
Use Shipping Session:
Saves shipping quotes to session to avoid re-quoting unnecessarily. Quotes will only be re-quoted if cart or address is changed.( YES/ NO)
I may by wrong, but my guess is that, when a person has chosen a shipping method, the total amount is stored in a session variable, rather than re-calculated each time the cart/checkout screen loads.

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Post by navex » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:04 pm

Kudos to Q and Daniel for all your efforts.

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Post by pafmax » Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:14 pm

Thanks for the update Daniel and Q!

And specially for the 1.4.6 -> 1.4.7 PATCH!!

The 1.4.5 -> .6 transition took me about 3-4 hours and a database restore.
The 1.4.6 -> .7 transition took… about 20 minutes (and that includes a comparison of all files and mods, translation, SQL queries, etc)

All I can say is that I'm really happy for your hard work, OC is getting better and better (and my store is about to open!)

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:13 pm

sirskull wrote:Somebody can explain to me this function? Please. I dont know what is shipping quotes.
Use Shipping Session:
Saves shipping quotes to session to avoid re-quoting unnecessarily. Quotes will only be re-quoted if cart or address is changed.( YES/ NO)
Yes, as furious said, opencart uses a session check for shipping. This is designed to cut down on re-querying live shipping rates from UPS, USPS, FedEx, etc if the cart hasn't changed. It can be a pain tho when you are having shipping rate issues and you forget that the rates are being reused instead of regenerated. So for a test shop while testing your rates, you would set this to No. On a live shop when you are sure it is working the way you want it, set this to YES to improve performance

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Post by datacon » Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:29 pm

Fantastic work Q and Daniel!!

Thanks for your hard work - I cant wait to load it up and test drive all the changes :) Changelog is also great!

I see you have order-edit / manual order creation for the backend planned for 1.4.8, thats fantastic too! I have a site that was needing that, any idea when your estimated release date would be for that, 1-2 weeks, 1 month?

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Post by ncc50446@hotmail.com » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:48 am

i2Paq wrote:
shoo002 wrote:Impressive upgrade list, good joint efforts thank you.

When can we expect to see manual order edit, backend order entry, returns rma included in opencart.

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The Order Edit/Manual Order Entry will be in 1.4.8.
When you say manual order entry, will that include being able to create orders with items that are not in the product database?

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Post by i2Paq » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:36 am

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i2Paq wrote:
shoo002 wrote:Impressive upgrade list, good joint efforts thank you.

When can we expect to see manual order edit, backend order entry, returns rma included in opencart.

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The Order Edit/Manual Order Entry will be in 1.4.8.
When you say manual order entry, will that include being able to create orders with items that are not in the product database?

BTW, Good work OpenCart team :)
Well, you could always use a free editable item for that.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:36 am

ncc50446@hotmail.com wrote: When you say manual order entry, will that include being able to create orders with items that are not in the product database?

BTW, Good work OpenCart team :)
It will just be drodowns of all products available and allow them to be inserted. The cart has dependencies as a whole. To make orders show up in order tables, etc there are relational mappings between ids. So the ID would have to exist for it to work in all places.

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Post by Chrissy Poo » Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:41 am

Qphoria wrote: It will just be drodowns of all products available and allow them to be inserted. The cart has dependencies as a whole. To make orders show up in order tables, etc there are relational mappings between ids. So the ID would have to exist for it to work in all places.
This is going to be a great feature and I am really looking forward to it.

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Post by CRAZY-Ivan » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:16 am

good job, but please, again I'm lobbing for option to show both prices with tax and without tax everywhere

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