What I miss most on Opencart...

is something like this, it would make Life so much more easy:



who in the World can remember all those Names, when trying to add something, searching trough the alphabet, from a to z, in hope to get a matching whatever...

Ernie

Hi

I never would have found this 'post'

As per the tab support thread if you use a space for the name it will list all your tabs.

Sorry I will not be implementing your suggestion as if you have 100's of tabs the list would get to long.

Cheers

Cheers

So you are "missing" something that isn't part of opencart normally but an extra feature in an addon??

Very misleading title.

rebdog wrote:As per the tab support thread if you use a space for the name it will list all your tabs...

In regard to actual posting by others:

http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=126333

http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 36#p500182

I admit, with the exeption of Google, I've never seen this 'kind' of 'input-selection' on (www Script-)Software before, so, I miss to have a 'regular' way to select whatever Value is available/neded to make that sort of selection work. And as it looks, I was not the only one, seeking a rather 'common' solution to this.

Honestly, I did not spend any time yet to find out, how this is done, because of more important work, awaiting me.
I assume, it's some JS/JSON Routine, involved, but I am really not a Pro either, when it comes to JS. Still, from my personal Point of View, this stuff, implemented in OC, looks more like a Programmer 'Overkill', but not like an efficient (and common) way of handling such tasks. It looks like someone tried to 'implement' latest (smart-google-like) techniques, unaware, that others would have to 'work' with this professionally, beeing required to waist time, just to find out, how such a thing possibly works.

I bet, 95+ percent of Peoples, trying to install/operate an OpenCart, will not know how to 'handle' this, without beeing required to either visit the Forum here (but finding no infos!), or then, trying to figure out by reading themselfs trough masses of Documents. But since they don't know, how such a 'Routine' is called (professionally) either, they don't find Solutions, they can't even use google for it, and as a result, they give up.

Make it easy on others, it makes it easier on yourself.

This is my experience, living on this Planet for just about 68 Years. The OpenCart Project claims to be built to be installed/used by Non-Pro's, Beginners, basically by any (default programmed) Human Beeing, able to read and write (at least) english. It, basically, does, as well - at least - as it comes by default. But, when implementing 'options' like those, the 'Beginners - Ideology' is beeing 'blown up' in the Air.

At least for Most, like me, broadly unable to 'imagine', how/why/when this thing works. Still, beeing around Scripting since BASIC was 'the' way to go(1977), writing multiple 10'000+ liner Perl Scripts as well as hundreds of HTML Pages by hand, reading uncounted amount of Info-Pages on the web, I was unable to figure out about this 'Gizmo-Routine'. It's really the only One, found in OC so far, and I still don't understand, why/how such a Piece of 'Nonsense' could have be implemented into OC. Possibly, someone tried to 'beat' him/herselfs, implementing a kind of Google Junior Smart-Search-Feeling to it...

Therefore, for me, It's the Number One 'missing' Admin-Thing in OpenCart, not to have, instead, just a bloody, dumb, ugly, but practical and easy to handle Select/option Routine.

I think I made myself 'clear'. No Emotions, please, it's just technical Critic, on a detail, not built, according to broad User-Requirements. It's not transparent , still uncommon, and it does not even 'function', if certain 'Pre-Work' has not been done before, to enable it to do it's Job. In addition, there is no info on how or what, no message about missing where/what, just nothing, an empty Box, an empty Field, a nonfunctional knob....

I assume, that a lot of OC Shop-Owners just don't use such Options, because it costs too much time to set up all that stuff, remember the 'codewords' or clicking from a to z, to place everything right. (I did NOT know about the thing with the empty SPACE! Thank You!) Otherways, if this theme had been 'targeted' more here at the Forum, a Mod, or then, easy to find, usable info on how to handle this, would probably exist for a long time, I guess.

Scripting should be done to assist, not to hamper...

No offense, please...

Ernie

Hi Ernie

IP_CAM wrote: No Emotions, please

Your post is full of emotion you did not even answer the technical comment I had in my post ie "if you have 100's of tabs the list would get to long" How would you deal with that??

Examples of your emotive post.

The title of this post, your comment is on an extension not on Opencart so your title is misleading and emotive.

IP_CAM wrote: I miss to have a 'regular' way to select whatever

Regular assumes there is a regular way, the way the extension works is the same way a lot of other parts of Opencart works (The Option Tab on each product works exactly the same way) so I could argue it is a regular way.

IP_CAM wrote: I bet, 95+ percent of Peoples, trying to install/operate an OpenCart, will not know how to 'handle' this

Can you please point me to the unemotional statistics to back this up, I do not remember anyone asking a question on either the forum or on the extension comments page.

IP_CAM wrote: Make it easy on others, it makes it easier on yourself.

Actually it is easy for me, the way it is, I actually like the way I have implemented it. If you read why I created the extension I did it because I needed it, if others do not like the extension they are free to use something else. What you are suggesting I do, would not be easy for me it would require me to spend time implementing something that I do not want and in addition I do not have the time to create, having more important things to do.

IP_CAM wrote: In regard to actual posting by others:

http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=126333

http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 36#p500182

There are two users who have raised the issue, at present there are 12841 downloads of the extension, that to me seems a very low number of users having issues.

Even more interesting, it appears you require me to implement it one way and the other user who raised the issue requires me to implement it another way and of course, what of the users who want it left as it is eg at least me.

So we have 3 users all of whom want it implemented different ways.

IP_CAM wrote: living on this Planet for just about 68 Years.

Your age has nothing to do with the 'technical arguments, it is purely emotive.

IP_CAM wrote: implementing a kind of Google Junior Smart-Search-Feeling to it...

Great technical argument!! Not!

IP_CAM wrote: Therefore, for me, It's the Number One 'missing' Admin-Thing in OpenCart, not to have, instead, just a bloody, dumb, ugly, but practical and easy to handle Select/option Routine.

Again great technical argument, calling something I spent a great deal of time implementing and that over 10,000 others have found useful enough to download "bloody, dumb, ugly" is a great technical argument.

IP_CAM wrote: No Emotions, please, it's just technical Critic,

As above your comments have not been technical, they have been insulting, please feel fee not to use the extension I spent time creating since you consider it "bloody, dumb, ugly"

IP_CAM wrote: No offense, please...

Very hard not to take offence when without any technical arguments (for example have you pointed me to any research to show what you suggest is better) you have called something I have spent a great deal of time on and made available for FREE "bloody, dumb, ugly" with a "Google Junior Smart-Search-Feeling to it"

In the end with open source your are free to modify the code I look forward to your modified code being available.

Cheers

just to make this clear, IF, then I have criticized the principl on how this is done in OC, not a specific Application or Mod. Therefore, noone should take it 'personal', possibly exept for the Fellow(s), implementing this 'way of doing it' into OC in the first place.

Getting emotional is just a way to possibly get Peoples 'heated up' a little, make them think, and so, eventually, find better ways to solve 'matters'. It's like beeing engaged in Politics (I am too), without Emotions, nothing moves ever. Just another typically 'Swiss' habit, I am frequently used to...

Sorry, no bad feeling, please

Ernie

PS. Still, regardles of the 'setup' used, one would have to be able to choose, out of a (stable) LIST-Field (or something), the Keyword. Using a SELECT Option, it's no difference to a Country-Selection or anything else, operating on exactly that simple 'setup', as I (and obviously others as well) would like to have/see/use. I still have no answer, nor Experience, on 'how such is beeing done' by using the 'default' procedure, without just waisting unneeded time for this, actually, very minor piece of setting (compared with everything else!).

I need look at it 'deeper', as soon as I find time. But, as I said, JS-Stuff is not my favoured thing, but obviously 'required part' of it.