Post by CaptainHaddock » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:21 am

Nice site, I like the color scheme and look and feel.
Have only had a quick look so apologies if these things have already been discussed or if I am wrong.

1)Typo "need some freindly advice..." - should be friendly.
2)Is it responsive? When I shrink window below ~650px wide it doesn't seem to adapt. Woulkd have thought you would want it to display nicely on most smartphones. There are some good templates you can get from places like themeforest for ~$40 that do that well.

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Post by butte » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:46 am

Probably setting a large display (desktop, laptop) to narrow (<800) doesn't trick the software (server, browser) into thinking it's suddenly a large cellphone (teensy). After the cellphone browser writers discovered that, no, most of us were not going to rewrite everything for devices that were too small in the first place, they came up with browsers that could put even decently display normal websites on cellphones. He needs to look at it on as many devices as will tell the tale, and since many of his customers will be doing "cellphone-think" already while looking for replacement or additional devices, accommodating them would (to some extent) be helpful. Cellphones also do a pretty good job of displaying orange.

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Post by FoneFactoryLtd » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:57 pm

Hi guys. ..thanks. appreciate all the feedback. Trademark has been applied for so see what happens.

The look the website im sticking with it as it is. I could spend 1000's of pounds.

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Post by CaptainHaddock » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:50 pm

butte wrote:Probably setting a large display (desktop, laptop) to narrow (<800) doesn't trick the software (server, browser) into thinking it's suddenly a large cellphone (teensy). After the cellphone browser writers discovered that, no, most of us were not going to rewrite everything for devices that were too small in the first place, they came up with browsers that could put even decently display normal websites on cellphones. He needs to look at it on as many devices as will tell the tale, and since many of his customers will be doing "cellphone-think" already while looking for replacement or additional devices, accommodating them would (to some extent) be helpful. Cellphones also do a pretty good job of displaying orange.
Ha ha! If only it were true that most browsers on cellphones can display normal websites ok.
That is not the case for most sites and cellphones. You have to scroll sideways to see the edges of the page.
If the cell phone has a high res screen e.g. Google Nexus 4 or Samsung Galaxy 4 then it will show most sites ok but the fonts will be tiny and unreadable.
A responsive site adapts its menus,width, image sizes and fonts etc so the site is easy to use.
The amount of browsing done on mobile devices is increasing and by 2015 will exceed time spent on PCs and laptops. Ignore this and it will cost you a lot of sales.

Agree with you, browser resizing is not a perfect test. Best to test on devices. I test with an iphone (960x640) and Nexus 4. Unbeleivable how many sites (even very large company's) are unusable.

There is going to be a lot of work rewriting ecommerce sites.
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Post by FoneFactoryLtd » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:02 pm

Ha no its not responsive but we do have a mobile version. Responsive is something that may need to be looked at.

Ive got some new features coming in the next few weeks.

Ive integrated our blog and forum so for example

if you click on a product say a galaxy s4.
Under the description there will be the first 5 blog articles and forum posts related to that device.

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Post by butte » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:44 am

At least CaptainHaddock ended with the point made in the first place by what he qupted. Initially cellphones blew it, cellphone code-slingers expected websites to conform to cellphones' preposterously inherent and preposterously diverse limitations, most website developers declined either to come up with two versions or to favor cellphones, cellphone code-slingers discovered that maybe they should pay attention to cellphone operating systems and browsers, a few of them did so, some of the results in some of the devices can decently display normal websites. MOST among surviving as well as newer-fangled cellphones, their operating systems, and their browsers -- if any -- are utter abominations that cannot display websites. Pinching and spreading are not appreciably better than scrollbars, lacking a keyboard is not even sane, etc..

Nonetheless, I have seen my own and others' work, never once adjusted for bloody cellphones, show up on late-model cellphones remarkably well rendered, including scalability of layout, fonts, images, etc.. The cellphone code-slingers have made headway. By 2015 and beyond, "There will be more work put into cellphone browsers than into website abandonments of computer audiences, let alone for e-commerce."

As for "responsive" designs, an initial concern is for practicality, http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 72#p416172, and the context is wide, http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 03#p406550. The entirety of html5 is not even due to come out of the development oven till 2022, and meanwhile developers of websites and of browsers have played with what works and what might work but will not work universally for want of settled standards and implementations, contributing among them to whatever course html5 eventually carves into granite No. 5. Neither browsers for computers nor for cellphones consistently render "absolute" and "relative"positioning or other departures from html4 and prior. A diversity of devices can be accommodated, including more "responsiveness" than requires html5, by the simple expedient of executing both "strict mode" and "quirks mode" with strict purpose.

In selling the small devices in the first place, FoneFactoryLtd is well enough positioned to draw upon suppliers and inventory to see how the website turns out as-is, as well as to favor them with appropriately varied or attuned "mobile" approach. There is certainly no harm in having both approaches for the sake of selling the devices. Cellphones can increasingly display road, weather, etc. maps, but formal mapping will be done on genuine machines before those squashable maps come to pass. Commerce will not all be squashable or squashed into cellphones. Everything that a Maserati can do is not squashable into a Ducatti; starting with the chassis, roof, and doors. The entire world will not choose between Maseratis and Ducattis, genuine computers and almostl uselessly little cellphones, no matter how wonderful and standardized html5 becomes by 2022.

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Post by FoneFactoryLtd » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:57 am

So far its okay. Feedback is great from potential clients and current.

OC has worked enough well for us. With a few minor tweaks we've got it there.

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