I am fairly new to OpenCart but have been following this thread for a while since this feature is pretty important to me. As both an open-source developer and a store owner, I can see both perspectives. Store owners NEED a feature that may be a showstopper just to a small number of other stores, developers are swamped 'working for free' on the things that they care about more. I pose a potential solution:
What about a 'feature bidding' system to incentive the developers? Someone needs a certain feature, so offers a $50 reward. Someone else also needs that feature too so they can add another $20 to the incentive, and keeps going from there. Sooner or later the reward will be large enough to incentivize a developer to do it. Once a developer chooses to take on this feature, the end-users' money goes in escrow, and once the developer get to collect the bounty once he finishes the feature.
Plugins sort of do this, but I would rather pay money towards a feature that will go into the core, then pay money that goes into a plugin. Improving the core over plugins also helps the project and community as a whole. And of course as a developer, if a bounty gets up to a few hundred dollars, that may just be incentive enough for me to take the time to add a feature that is of low-priority to my personal store.
Just my 2 cents
And just to add, if anyone keeps complaining about a feature that they really need but are not willing to pay up, then it shows that they are all talk and expect developers to work for free developing the perfect store for them to profit from.
Likewise, if one of the devs says he needs XXX dollars to make it worth his time to stay up extra late a few nights, then it is now on the end-users court to figure out how to rally to community to raise that money.
Personally, I would rather contribute a few hundred bucks a year to get the features I need into the core of the open-source project, then pay money on a closed-source solution or external plugins. It is an exponential return on investment since the project will then be better for the dozens of other stores I may use it for.
Sounds like that is the real problem. It seems like most of the talk I see about OpenCart, ultimately comes back to the lead developer. Is there any reason not to adapt a more distributed model of authority? While it would mean him losing some control, it would also mean recruiting many more developers to ultimately increase the success of his project and decrease the weight he has to carry by single handling running the project as a brutal dictator. Doesn't make much sense to me...Xsecrets wrote:The problem with that is that currently only two developers can add things to the core, and only one has final say and likes to rip out even good stuff from the other one.
You are not alone ...jordan wrote:Doesn't make much sense to me...
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Well it's pretty obvious at this point he's not going to give up any control. The only way to change things would be to fork the project, but you would have to have a strong developer or group of developers to handle that, and it's a lot of work, and if it even became successful it would take quite some time, so at the start it would be lots of work with very little reward. Basically you would be like Daniel with the only difference being that you would be willing to distribute the load if you ever got anyone interested in helping.jordan wrote:Sounds like that is the real problem. It seems like most of the talk I see about OpenCart, ultimately comes back to the lead developer. Is there any reason not to adapt a more distributed model of authority? While it would mean him losing some control, it would also mean recruiting many more developers to ultimately increase the success of his project and decrease the weight he has to carry by single handling running the project as a brutal dictator. Doesn't make much sense to me...Xsecrets wrote:The problem with that is that currently only two developers can add things to the core, and only one has final say and likes to rip out even good stuff from the other one.
there's not that many, but how many do you think you could take with you if you forked? Not that many and that would leave you doing what Daniel is currently doing and that is an extraordinary amount of work.jordan wrote:How many strong contributors would you say there are to opencart? Are we talking a couple of patches here and there, or a group of several people consistently contributing many patches that get rejected?
Magento has these features. Problem is, Magento also pretty much requires either a VERY competent LAMP developer on-staff, or a VERY good outsource firm (good luck finding one that won't charge an arm & a leg) - there is absolutely NO way that a typical small-business owner, or even a "general" web developer, would be able to modify or maintain such a monster.
I personally spent the better part of 2 years dealing with Magento, and finally gave up & went to OpenCart. Modules and extensions FTW!
In order to solve the Product Options Stock Control Problem I am creating following vqmod based solution.
1- Ability to created a new Option of type "combination". with this type one can combine other list based options.
i.e. suppose we have option-1 color (Blue, Green, White) and option-2. Size(S, L ,M), then you can create an option of type combination "color and size" . this allow you to combine color and size option.
2- in the product option tab, you choose the option "color and size" and you will be shown color + size as one option-value with stock control.
I hope i am going in the right direction. please see the attached file. I would appreciate and comments.
I am trying to setup a demo and will share the detail.
well I don't know about how much less complicated it will be than other aspects that have been involved. I've seen where you tried it so you know the issues level. It might make it easier if you limited it to 2 or 3 levels, but if you are going to release something for everyone you know as well as I do that the day you release it someone will complaint that they have 4, so it's best to just do it right and make it many to many. With the options moving to worldwide options it at least makes it possible, though still complicated. I'm sure it will happen, but as you've described elsewhere with 1.5 just coming out and for whatever objective everyone else on the world actually getting the generate on all their projects most of the devs able of this degree of execute are just confused right now.
Jonathon's Highly effective Categories uses the process of a dropdown datasource being created after previous times one is selected.
I don't see what this has to do with the options at all. The are already stored with requested details in ideas. All that has to be done is a simple ajax callback to query for groups with the selected parent or guardian, and there is no type of combination details stored in regards to groups.
stock on personal choices is designed in, but not inventory on choice mixtures, so if you have
you can currently only monitor inventory on little and independently on natural, so if someone purchases a little natural clothing little inventory decrements by 1 and natural inventory decrements by 1 then if someone else purchases a little white-colored clothing inventory on white-colored decrements by one and inventory on little decrements by 1. This is obviously does not jive with the actual inventory you have on side. You cannot currently monitor inventory on little natural tops unless you create it as below which individuals really don't want to do.
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Re: Item Options Stock Control
Postby web2works » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:59 pm
Ok I comprehend now thank you for describing.
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How do I make the calculation of individual stock items?
value orange 10 stock
value white 5 stock
value green 8 stock
When someone buys a stock is calculated automatically white -1
Does anyone know what I mean?
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