Post by right43 » Mon May 11, 2009 11:02 pm

Hi,

I find OC to be extremely good and professional but the checkout process seemed to be too troublesome. Is there any one who can help me in editing it to become a one click fast checkout without any account being created by the user. All helps will be appreciated

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Post by JNeuhoff » Tue May 12, 2009 9:14 pm

At the moment there is no fast checkout available for Opencart because it usually requires the user to have a store account.

One of the challenges to overcome in creating a fast checkout (with no need for the user to log into a store account) is to get a proper shipping quote. In order for Opencart to do so it needs to know some of the customer's address details.

Also, in a fast checkout scenario, where is the order fulfilment to be handled? If the Opencart admin panel is to be used for this, it would require the order AND customer details to be stored in the database. With some payment gateways the order fulfilment can be done on their end (Google Checkout seller account comes to my mind as an example).

To summarize: There is no quick solution for an express checkout scenario though it's not impossible to create one for certain payment methods.

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Post by Daniel » Tue May 12, 2009 9:29 pm

Both Google and PayPal ofer fast checkout services.

I think they do this so that they can have their payment services shown before other payment gateways.

The problem is shipping. You need to know what the country and region is and possibly even the postal code.

You think the checkout is to trouble? Please! if you want this feature then say so. Don't say the opencart has a checkut is troubleome.

It has one of the cleanest checkouts out there.

All the big name web sites have a full checkout service.

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Post by tommix » Tue May 12, 2009 9:44 pm

You can buy (if there is) - gmail/yahoo, facebook... login - so people can login with their account and shipping will be only to address in payment systems. so no need to tell it in store (maybe) but this is much work so if you store are not some 30$ per week (as mine :D ) - you should buy dev for this :)

Daniel or maybe other in this forum from OC team, or try freelancer sites.

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Post by phpuk » Tue May 12, 2009 10:18 pm

Having an account in OpenCart allows the customer to see previous invoices and allows the site owner to send out newsletters etc...

There are a number of benefits.

I have seen requests for faster checkouts on a number of forums and the simple answer to providing a faster checkout appears to be one or a mix of the following...

1. Store what the customer selected last time (not very good as they may want to choose another)
2. If there is only one shipping option and one payment method go straight to checkout.
3. Put both the shipping and payment methods on one page then go to checkout.
4. If more than one shipping or payment method then put everything on the checkout page but this requires AJAX to update totals.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

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Post by Daniel » Tue May 12, 2009 10:48 pm

I sopose i could put a shipping calculator on the cart page, but i woukld also have to put coupon codes there aswell.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue May 12, 2009 10:54 pm

phpuk wrote: 2. If there is only one shipping option and one payment method go straight to checkout.
3. Put both the shipping and payment methods on one page then go to checkout.
4. If more than one shipping or payment method then put everything on the checkout page but this requires AJAX to update totals.
Options 3 & 4 have been demonstrated in OpenCart 0.7.9 a while back... Option 4 using normal POST to update, with ajax if javascript is enabled.

Option 2 is actually in the upcoming v0.8 because its more transparent, but I'm also trying to figure out the best way.

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Post by right43 » Wed May 13, 2009 11:15 am

I am very sorry if i offended some of u. The reason I commented that OC checkout was troublesome is only a special case for me. Most will find it to be ok. The reason is because the ecommerce i am doing is a local country one and my country does not have any state or whatever, and all my stuff are free shipping. Thus what i need is just a guest checkout where customer will enter their name, email, telephone and address.

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Post by JNeuhoff » Wed May 13, 2009 4:40 pm

Thus what i need is just a guest checkout where customer will enter their name, email, telephone and address.
With all these details we might as well have the user create a store account.

I think an fast checkout scenario should be just that:
Customer enters the bare minimum (no more than country and postcode needed for gettting a proper shipping quote, unless free or flat rate shipping), and the order processing/fulfilment is provided by the payment service, e.g. Google Checkout merchant service, or Amazon Payment service, etc.

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Post by jiggsaw » Tue May 19, 2009 12:40 am

Is there anyway fast checkout can at least be an option in admin?

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Post by Daniel » Tue May 19, 2009 7:15 am

jiggsaw,

what is your clients spec for this?

Why do they want to be able to allow clients to checkout without creating an account?

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Post by jiggsaw » Tue May 19, 2009 10:24 am

Daniel wrote:jiggsaw,

what is your clients spec for this?

Why do they want to be able to allow clients to checkout without creating an account?
I've had about 5 potential customers email me about not wanting to register. I guess people are just plain lazy these days. :)

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Post by phpuk » Tue May 19, 2009 7:30 pm

Seen this many time but they still have to enter their delivery address etc so don't really understand the problem with people like this.

Anyway one way round it I have seen is to take them to some form of chechout then ask them for their delivery address and email address and use that info to create a short account and generate a username (from their name) and password then email it to them so they have become members anyway.

They think its a quick checkout which is good for them but we create an account on their behalf so they can come back at any time and have the benefits of membership like seeing their orders etc...

Maybe instead of offering to take them to the account registration area the account creation form could be displayed below the login form.

Returning customer:
Email: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Password: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

New user:
Username: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Address: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



Postcode: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Tele: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
email: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

etc...

This way they do not feel like they are being dragged of to somewhere else interrupting their purchase.

This could potentially be a "kill two birds with one stone" type solution.

What do you think?

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Post by jiggsaw » Wed May 20, 2009 1:15 am

Yeah, that sounds good to me.

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Post by Daniel » Wed May 20, 2009 4:26 am

jiggsaw wrote:Yeah, that sounds good to me.
what country are you from and what do you sell?

this is a strange request for any customers to make.

you still get the customers details from the paypal or google checkout.

please pm me the emails! I just don't believe this.

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Post by halalan » Wed May 20, 2009 8:13 pm

Having the option to shop on a site and purchase the products as a GUEST is not that uncommon. Many times individuals are not interested in so called "creating an account" needing to make a password and feel they will forever be on another email mailing list.

One sites checkout page is show below that is a high end gift site that offers this , maybe checking its checkout flow would help just to see how it flows. After selecting a product to purchase you see this site with an option to create an account or to login or CONTINUE AS A GUEST !!!

Note: they even still give you the option at checkout when you have more than one product to select multiple shipping address locations. Yes in reality the customer probably ends up typing just as much info, but if it keeps them HAPPY...by not creating an account...then good for them.
P.S. (the site also lets them personlize many products :-) a request I have made for opencart ) ::)

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Post by readyman » Sat May 23, 2009 3:19 am

Was there any more word on this functionality?

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Post by yowzadave » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:03 pm

I agree that this would be useful--I think many customers would prefer to checkout without having to create an account.

If they have to create an account, then it seems like one more username/password combo that they have to remember. What if they return to the store six months later, and can no longer remember what email address they used to register? It simply seems easier to checkout without registering, instead of having to go to the trouble of re-registering or tracking down the username/password combination.

Many professional shopping carts offer this option.

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Post by PmX » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:07 am

I would also like to see this option. I have heard many people say they hate it when shopping sites force them to register for an account. The idea of it asking them for enough information to ship the order and take payment and then generating a username and password for them sounds like a good one to me, you could even use their email address for their login name.

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:23 am

I have guest checkout available here for v1.3.2 if you need it.
http://www.unbannable.com/ocstore/guest_checkout

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