Progress Towards 1.5.0

if you give me sopme working examp-les, a list of required hooks we might be able to start developing something.


$hook->add('add_to_cart');
$hook->add('remove_cart');
$hook->add('load_template');


etc..

oneilldesign wrote:

Qphoria wrote:And finally that damn url class!!!

I thought you loved that!!!

I do love it! I'd love for it to be back!

Gonna jump around on my answer so please forgive.

Yeah, I know that opencart is MVC-L ... I have spent the last week buried in it trying to 1. get to grips with php5 and objective programming 2. trying to build multiple functionality into the system 3. pulling my hair out jumping between multiple files to do things 4. learned that I would like to isolate all language declarations to either a db like structure (I did this before osc) or at least put declarations into 1 file with out having to re-reference them in the controller.

What I mean by a "framework" is like the example I gave of Modx. but in this case, a cart but yet a cart that can expand and fit to most users needs without having to get under the hood to make adjustments that will probably break on the next update.

Since Qphoria understands where I'm coming from, please re-read his posts on the page before this.

I DO realize that this is no small feat and that the core code will have to be re-written up to 50-60%. On top of which, the way the cart reacts and interacts with "plugin / mods / extensions" will also have to be thought out.

Since I realize this, I did not bring up this topic lightly. I have a pretty good understanding that this is not something to take lightly.

However
The benefits that opencart would reap will surpass the amount of effort that will be required.
1. 3rd party developers will stick around since they don't have to maintain and re-work all their hard work just because something got changed slightly.
2. I don't think I have come across such a cart yet. I had this discussion years ago when Zen was still a few renegads yet they wanted bloat because that was what their core developers wanted. OSC even with the alphas and betas is slowly becoming objectified. Cre-loaded is just that loaded. OpenCart is the first cart for me that is not a osc derivative.
3. Breaking the core of opencart down into pieces will allow updates of areas like the routing, navigation and what not that much easier. On top of which, this may allow OC to integrate with CMS/CMS frameworks -- fame.
4. Users would be able to start with a base core framework and add-in any module that fits their needs rather than try to maintain something that will break with an update.
5. This will make OC, KISS compliant.
6. This would also be a great time to comment code
7. did I say already that OC will become a force to reckon with?

I posted my comment yesterday and by accident came across this on techcrunch : http://techcrunch.com/2010/11/07/buildi ... nterprise/
The article goes into simplicity and the difficulty of making something simplistic.

But people want 1.5 !?!
So, do I but why not just continue with 1.4.x for bug fixing and security or if it's already to alpha release it and make it EOL. Then move your efforts to a 2.0 framework. lolo, that sounds a bit to much web 2.0

hmmm ... maybe some of these last few comments should be moved to a new thread / forum. Call it bluesky or something ...

Also, I'd be willing to help as much as possible ...

was it that bad?
The url class ...

Daniel wrote:if you give me sopme working examp-les, a list of required hooks we might be able to start developing something.


$hook->add('add_to_cart');
$hook->add('remove_cart');
$hook->add('load_template');


etc..

Absolutely:

$hook->add('cart_add');
$hook->add('cart_remove');
$hook->add('cart_update');
$hook->add('cart_clear');

$hook->add('load_template');
$hook->add('load_language');
$hook->add('load_model');

$hook->add('customer_create');
$hook->add('customer_login');
$hook->add('customer_logout');

$hook->add('address_change');
$hook->add('address_edit');

$hook->add('checkout_guest');
$hook->add('checkout_shipping');
$hook->add('checkout_payment');
$hook->add('checkout_confirm');

$hook->add('currency_set');

$hook->add('order_confirm');
$hook->add('order_update');

That would be a start.. we could always easily add more later once the concept is in place

Then I suppose

SapporoGuy wrote:was it that bad?
The url class ...

You are all misunderstanding me.. I mean I want it back!

lolo ... ok, why was it so good?

as for the hooks ... ummmm, gonna want to hook / observe basically the whole cart (front and back)
By doing the admin too, we could move forward to remove lots of those tables, add some ext fun like that extension that is for sale and such.

While I'm here ... also look into developing the download through the admin too.

I know that this is a huge amount of change in the code ...

SapporoGuy wrote:lolo ... ok, why was it so good?

Here's why:
http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=21010

oh gee!
Yes, I'm on the boat if it does all that but ... what was the reason it was cut?

Qphoria wrote:

SapporoGuy wrote:was it that bad?
The url class ...

You are all misunderstanding me.. I mean I want it back!

I understood... my comment was tongue-in-cheek.

so... 1.5.0...

any ideas for release.. one of you guys has to crack n let us know..

Sometime between now and then

Qphoria wrote:Sometime between now and then

tease!! lol

Hi all,

I found OpenCart at version 1.4.9.1 so I am waiting for 1.5 before I change my actual website. I'm not good with code so adding the various modules has caused me some issues. I figure if I wait till 1.5 most of what I need will already be included.

So in the meantime I thought I could work on getting my product catalogue updated and ready to go by using the Spreadsheet supplied as part of the 'Import/Export Tool' module.

Then I thought what a waste of time it would be if that was no longer used in version 1.5. So my question is will 1.5 have the import/export function built in and if so will it use a spreadsheet similar to the current module? And if it's not built in will the module still work with 1.5?

Thanks

TAC wrote:Hi all,

I found OpenCart at version 1.4.9.1 so I am waiting for 1.5

It will take a while before 1.5 will be production ready + all modules to be updated to work with 1.5

Thanks for that - I guess I was being hopeful it would be soon because of this on Oct 29th

Daniel wrote:Guys don't be holding off projects for 1.5.0. it probably won't be finished this month now. I am close to finishing but might be another week yet.

Though I'd rather it was right than rushed so I will be patient.

I'm seriously considering switching 4 ZenCart sites to OpenCart... and am thinking that I should just wait until 1.5 until I dive in.

Ok. I'll be waiting for your e-commerce revolution!!!

P.S.
I'd like to see a demo access to the new OpenCart.

sys wrote:I'd like to see a demo access to the new OpenCart.

What I'd like to see is a couple of different themes to choose from out of the box. And not just colours - a few layout changes. Unfortunately with the way the site is structured, it can be difficult to achieve this.

oneilldesign wrote:

sys wrote:I'd like to see a demo access to the new OpenCart.

What I'd like to see is a couple of different themes to choose from out of the box. And not just colours - a few layout changes. Unfortunately with the way the site is structured, it can be difficult to achieve this.

This discussion has been held many times, OC will come with one template.

Please don't start this discussion again: thanks