Post by SparxGroup » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:27 am

Hi there,
Have a couple of things I would love to get done, if you can give me a rough price or let me know how to do it so i can try that would be great.

How hard would it be to convert hundreds of products from MAGENTO to Opencart0 or OpenCartv1?
How hard would it be to convert hundreds of products from OSCOMMERCE to Opencart0 or OpenCartv1?

I know loads of people that would transfer over if we had a tool to do this, maybe using the import/export or something along those lines? I know you can import using excel spreadsheet in OpenCart, and in Magento.

Also want a Bank Deposit module that users can input bank details from their back end and it puts into database and pulls it out in the email that is sent, and in confirmation page. (Like most other shops)

Can you let me know your thoughts on these?

Thanks
Sheldon

New member

Posts

Joined
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am

Post by Nahuel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:28 am

The converters are always a good idea. Maybe there can be a way to transform the DB into a xls to import on OpenCart.

New member

Posts

Joined
Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:35 am

Post by SparxGroup » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:09 am

Yep you can already export into a XLS, and then import using XLS into OpenCart... except the structure is slightly different I think.

New member

Posts

Joined
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am

Post by Nahuel » Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:07 am

Maybe there is a way to modify the XLS that you get from Magento to fit the one it's accepted by OpenCart. I worked with Magento, but never used the export, so I can't say how to do it, but if you have a XLS there can't be so hard to make a converter.

(Also, this is great to promote OpenCart, as I've said)

New member

Posts

Joined
Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:35 am

Post by JNeuhoff » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:30 pm

I am currently porting the Export/Import module from 0.7.9 to 1.x.

If someonne could show me a sample XLS file from Magento, I can take a look at it. Maybe it will be possible to write a special Import filter which can use the Magento XLS file.

User avatar
Guru Member

Posts

Joined
Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:38 am


Post by SparxGroup » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:21 am

Yep I will get this sent to you mate shortly, :) I am really keen for an import from Magento products to OpenCart.....

New member

Posts

Joined
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am

Post by JNeuhoff » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:51 am

As I said on the OpencartZero forum, I am not impressed at all with Magento, and its demo server has no Export function, must be a separate plugin.

User avatar
Guru Member

Posts

Joined
Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:38 am


Post by Daniel » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:38 am

I just found out that Magento was created in Russia and not a big company in LA. The whole thing is a badly put together system, but marketed well.

User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Post by SparxGroup » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:41 am

Hmm are you sure about that? Got references?

Magento is a great system, don't get me wrong. Just too complex for most people, and too bloaty.

I have seen some amazing Magento websites.

It has loads of features, and is also just over 1 year old officially released.

Cheers

New member

Posts

Joined
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am

Post by Daniel » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:07 am

I found out from the Joomla people. They are looking to replace virtual mart with opencart by creating a bridge. The tried magento first and got in touch with the developers. Apprantly they are in russia. Not that there is anything wrong with russia.

User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Post by SparxGroup » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:12 am

Awesome :)

Joomla and OpenCart would be great having a bridge.

How about Concrete 5 + Open Cart?

www.concrete5.org (My favourite CMS)

New member

Posts

Joined
Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:53 am

Post by JNeuhoff » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:15 pm

The whole thing is a badly put together system, but marketed well.
Actually, I finally managed to install Magento and had a chance to take a closer look at it. Magento uses quite a different design philosophy.

Magento uses product attributes instead of a fixed set of fields as is the case in Opencart. For example, if a product specifies the attribute set of 'Shoes', it will use details such as 'gender', 'shoe size', and 'shoe type'. If a product specifies an attribute set of e.g. 'Furniture', it will include details such as 'country origin', 'finish', 'room' etc. There may be a set of commonly used core attributes for all products, but none are listed as static field columns in the 'catalog_product_entity' DB table, which is Magento's rough equivalent to Opencart's 'product' table. The reason why it quickly gets bloated (there are more than 200 DB tables) is that different product attributes may be of different types, therefore require different tables.

This design gives Magento a great flexibility, at the expense of easyness to use. Opencart has a much cleaner Model-View-Control design, with much more future potential.

User avatar
Guru Member

Posts

Joined
Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:38 am


Post by Nahuel » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:04 am

The idea of different attributes according to the products it's a very good idea which can be ported to OpenCart I think. (Just thinking loud)

New member

Posts

Joined
Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:35 am

Post by Qphoria » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:21 am

I don't really understand... attributes sounds like just another name for options.

If you have a "Shoe" product in OpenCart, then you create a "Size" option, and "Gender" option, and a "Type" option all the same.

Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by Qphoria » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:13 am

OK, after spending over an hour trying to install magento, and not getting past the installation config (which the forums also shows many people with the same question and no answers), I gave up. But looking at the sample data sql file, and trying to step through the files in the nusphere debugger... I've realized one thing... Magento is the devil incarnate! Even with the debugger, there was no point in the code that I could make heads or tails of. I mean its clean and looks like its pretty complex and genius... but to a fault.

Anyway, looking at the sql, I do see the confusion in the product area. I don't know that its doing what you are explaining, but after my eyes crossed trying to understand it, I gave up. Magento really looks pretty on the outside, but I don't think I could even manage to echo a string in that code.

Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by readyman » Wed May 20, 2009 5:30 am

Has there been any move on the options/attributes to allow an option or set of options to be added to multiple products rather than per product?

My thought is to create option sets to be applied to products, rather than individual options per product. Seems like a 'simple' addition, just updating what's already there to be expanded to use option groups/sets rather than individual options.
Please let me know if someone has already created a mod or hack to do this. If not, I'll hopefully be making a contribution in the next few weeks when I've found the time to think it through & check the current code and db properly.

http://www.alreadymade.com
Follow me on twitter.com/alreadymade


User avatar
Global Moderator

Posts

Joined
Wed May 20, 2009 5:16 am
Location - Sydney

Post by jhubb » Mon Jun 01, 2009 5:01 pm

I have been using magento for the last year and it is an amazing system in terms of flexibility. The attributes are not the same as options, they are simply 'extra fields' for describing the products which can be customised per product group.

Although Magento is great, it is also very slow, pages sometimes take 3-4 seconds to load which is too long. Opencart seems very promising to me and if the feature set reaches even half that of Magento I would be very happy.

The main features I use are:
Multi-website (handy for me running several sites)
Per-Option SKU's and stock control.
Wish List
Points System
Single Page Checkout
SEO URLs / Canonical URL
Back office order creation and payment
Tags
Customer Groups / Pricing

I know this is slightly off topic, sorry.

Relating to this thread, Magento offers extensive export/import functions (not available on the demo) so it would be easy to create an export profile in Magento to the correct format required by any application!

User avatar
Newbie

Posts

Joined
Sun May 31, 2009 8:51 pm
Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 73 guests