Post by fido-x » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:12 am

This "plug-in" provides full multi-vendor support, allowing you to use your OpenCart system as a "mall", with users managing their own products, categories, downloads, etc.

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At it's heart is the "Store Manager" module.

When enabled, the system uses the "Store Manager" to create your stores. In the process of creating your store, you will create a user to manage that store. The module will also create a category on the main site for that store, either as a top-level category or as a sub-category of an existing category (selectable from a drop-down list).

Once the store(s) and associated user(s) have been created, the top admin can allocate any existing products to a particular user. The selected product(s) will be removed from the category they are currently under and moved to the category owned by the user.

When a "store manager" logs in to the admin, they are presented with a tailored view, starting from the dashboard page. All information here (summary, statistics graphs, last 10 orders) is specific to the store owned by the logged in user. They will only be able to access their own categories, products, downloads, informations and reviews on their products. All built-in reporting is also tailored to the user's store.

Users can create their own categories/sub-categories which will appear as sub-categories/sub-sub-categories (etc) under their category on the main site (if the default store is selected) and/or as categories/sub-categories (etc) on the user's site (if their store is selected).

Preview at http://dev.fido-x.net/. To view the module, log in to the admin with username/password of "demo/demo", then select "Extensions->Modules" and look for the "Store Manager". To see what a "store manager" (user) sees in the admin, log in with username/password of "larry/password".

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Post by fido-x » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:13 am

Just added in another user and store. So, now there are 2 users and 2 sub-stores.

Main store: http://dev.fido-x.net/
Sub-store: http://laptops.fido-x.net/
Sub-store: http://mp3s.fido-x.net/

As stated above, you can log in to the admin with "demo/demo" to view the "normal" administration. Or, you can log in with either "larry/password" (to view Larry's products, categories, etc) or "mike/password" (to view Mike's products, etc).

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Post by i2Paq » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:40 pm

I'm really impressed by this MOD/Plug-In.

Another great piece of work!

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Post by phountain » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:31 pm

When will this plugin be available?
And will you be able to add separate themes to the different stores?

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Post by fido-x » Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:54 am

phountain wrote:When will this plugin be available?
Probably within the next week or 2.
And will you be able to add separate themes to the different stores?
You can already to this.

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Post by phountain » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:52 am

Sweet, can you post a link here once it's up?

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Post by FlexiHost » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:38 pm

How is this going to work when it comes to payment and shipping prices?

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Post by fido-x » Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:48 pm

At the moment, payment and shipping are controlled by the site admin. I did think about including support for payment and shipping methods, but it adds a whole new level of complexity to what is already a complex set of modifications. I may yet include these.

However, leaving at least the payment method in the control of the site admin, makes it easier for the site admin to add a surcharge to any purchase.

And, before anyone asks, YES, it was all done with vQmods.

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Post by i2Paq » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:58 am

fido-x wrote:And, before anyone asks, YES, it was all done with vQmods.
You are a showoff ;D

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Post by merchboer » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:05 pm

in the demo, where can I find the store manager? In System (not accessible, which is understandable of course)? Or is it not in the menu (yet)?

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Post by debbiegibbons » Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:08 pm

Hi,

This is something I would be very much interested in but have a couple of questions....

For each store user set up can it be customised so that they can only access top level categories that will be set by super admin i.e myself with no options to add categories? Would also only want them accessing just products and downloads.

Will it be possible to set commissions? I.e I allow someone to sell on the site but take for example a 25% commission? There admin would only shows monies owed base on what they sold minus commission payment for super admin.

All payments are made to superadmin's account for the super admin to then distribute payments to sellers on a monthly basis?

Basically I would only want sellers have basic functionality. The can log in add a new product, add it to necessary category and link it to the revelant download. Everything else like queries, reviews, payments etc etc is all dealt with by super admin.

I currently sell my products through several mall styles stores all of which are very different but only allow basic functions. If you would like any screen shots of how it works on other sites to try and help then please feel free to ask!

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Post by peteVA » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:35 am

Terribly risky processing payments for others, also against the rules.

Somebody comes in, sets up a shop, sells a lot of goods and doesn't deliver and the main admin is stuck with the chargebacks. No way I'd risk something like that.

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:08 am

peteVA wrote:Terribly risky processing payments for others, also against the rules.

Somebody comes in, sets up a shop, sells a lot of goods and doesn't deliver and the main admin is stuck with the chargebacks. No way I'd risk something like that.
This is why the extension store here pays out at the end of the month. It is a pain for daniel, but gives some security delay to avoid problems like this.

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Post by peteVA » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:47 am

Yes, understood. And I don't want to make a big deal out of it, but in this case we are talking relatively low values, not $100+ items which have to be delivered by carriers that can take a couple of weeks to deliver, and require a 21 working day period before claims can be filed.

And a 45 day PayPal dispute period.

Non delivery or defective downloads can be reported and confirmed in a day or two, where someone selling iPads or 32GB iPhones can say delivery is 10 days and the price is $800. Doesn't take but a few of those claims and Daniel or whoever will be without a PayPal account.

The whole idea is fine, I've looked at others, to be honest, but I would want each seller to have their own payment processing, with me out of their loop.

And, as I said, no merchant is allowed to take payments for others, according to every contract I've ever seen.

Simply risky business.

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Post by debbiegibbons » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:52 pm

Not quite sure it is against the rules, there are 100's of mall type shops where as you sell your products via someone's website and they pay you once a month for your sales after taking their commission.

In fact I sell on quite a few sites like this!!

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Post by peteVA » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:29 pm

It all comes down to who claims the customer.

If the mall belongs to "A" and the card is processed by "A", and the goods are offered by "B", then "B" is simply a supplier to "A" and the customer belongs to "A" and "A" is responsible for any legal / delivery / warranty issues.

If "B" is renting space from "A" and "B" is processing the card, then the customer and any issues belong to "B".

I understand what you are saying, but in reality, you are a commissioned agent selling for "A". You are an agent if you sell goods other than those you supply, since some malls will all all members to sell products other than their own, or you are "A"'s supplier.

This is how most of the online card processors, other than your own direct merchant account work. While it seems you are making the sale to the buyer, legally you are selling to the processor who sells to the buyer. This is the case with Google payments, also.

Legally, you have no claims to the customer, any emails could be considered SPAM, etc. You are simply a supplier (a dropshipper so to speak) for PayMate, 2CO, etc.

This from PayPal's User Agreement as a cause for termination -
Use your Account or the PayPal Services in a manner that PayPal, Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover or any other electronic funds transfer network reasonably believes to be an abuse of the card system or a violation of card association or network rules;

Those rules definitely state processing sales for anyone other than yourself are a direct violation and cause for cancellation.

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:39 pm

Life is a risk in general... there can be a couple bad seeds trying to commit fraud the same way a couple of bad seeds could be looking to run random people over. But we don't lock ourselves indoors. We use discretion in all facets of life and this is no exception

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Post by peteVA » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:29 am

No doubt of that, there is a risk every day when you "open for business".

It's one thing to take risks on your own behalf, another to end up losing a PayPal or merchant account for a few percent processing sales for others.

The only thing I am saying is that there should be a way for mall members to process their own sales, while the owner still gets overall sales reports for charging rent.

Debbie is speaking as a seller and has little or nothing to lose.

I am looking at it from the point of the owner, who could be left holding the bag for quite a sum of money, which could be avoided by allowing sellers to process their own sales.

Thinking about it, I can see that this arrangement would appeal to just those who have been booted from PP themselves. (No offense, Debbie.) Such sites could become magnets for those who don't qualify on their own and those who take advantage of such situations.

Simply pointing out possible problems for mall owners processing cards for others.

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Post by fido-x » Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:19 pm

Well, there's been a fair bit of commentary since the last time I looked at this post.
peteVA wrote:It all comes down to who claims the customer.

If the mall belongs to "A" and the card is processed by "A", and the goods are offered by "B", then "B" is simply a supplier to "A" and the customer belongs to "A" and "A" is responsible for any legal / delivery / warranty issues.

If "B" is renting space from "A" and "B" is processing the card, then the customer and any issues belong to "B".
The order contains the store id and store name from where the order was placed. In the above example, it comes down to which store the order was placed through.

Re-wording the above, we come up with:
If the mall belongs to "A" and the card is processed by "A", and the goods are offered by "B" through "A's" store, then "B" is simply a supplier to "A" and the customer belongs to "A" and "A" is responsible for any legal / delivery / warranty issues.

If "B" is renting space from "A" and the order is placed through "B's" store, "A" is processing the card, but the customer and any issues belong to "B" because that's what's on the order.
Having said that, I must admit that I do agree with peteVA's comments regarding payment and shipping issues, and these are "reasons" why I haven't released this yet.

Ultimately, it comes down to the wording of the contract between mall owner and store owner.

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Post by debbiegibbons » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:19 pm

I sell on two sites other than my own where as the only thing I do is log in to my account and add a product, i have visibility of what products of mine have been sold and what my earnings are but absolutely everything else is done by the store owner so all payments from any sales go to them, all customer inquiries regardless of whose product they are inquiring about go direct to the owner. I have no dealings with payments, customers or anything else. Then once a month I receive money for sales minus store owners commission and they both use PayPal.

Whilst this mod would be great for allowing me to take on multiple designers it still leaves me with a few concerns like bad customer care etc etc and ultimately it leaves you as the overall owner with a bad name and if you have worked hard building a website and gaining customer's the last thing you would want is negative feedback just because one of your sellers could not be bothered to respond to a customer and deal with their inquiry or deal with it in a poor way which is why I would prefer that things like this should be left with the main store owner i.e myself.

My other concern is.. I will be the one ultimately setting up a store, buying the domain, paying the hosting etc etc so I would want some form of commission for allowing them to sell via my store and this looks like it does not allow for that so basically you would be giving some one a website for no costs at all..

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