Post by jivanrij » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:24 pm

Hello, I'm going to develop a new webshop and probably want to do this with OC. However, I notice that there are still a lot fewer extensions ready for version 4. Also, I read developers saying that they haven't made their extensions ready for OC 4 yet because they don't find it stable yet. Normally, I always go for the latest version of an application, but I'm starting to doubt now. Is this a legitimate concern?

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Post by IP_CAM » Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:50 pm

Is this a legitimate concern?
Yes, it is, for the time beeing, OC v.3.0.3.9 would most likely be a better Solution:
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... ad/history

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Post by paulfeakins » Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:33 pm

IP_CAM wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:50 pm
Is this a legitimate concern?
Yes, it is, for the time beeing, OC v.3.0.3.9 would most likely be a better Solution:
https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... ad/history
Indeed and there's discussion about this topic about this on this forum:
viewtopic.php?t=231401
viewtopic.php?t=231189
And others.

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Post by jivanrij » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:39 pm

Thanks for the feedback!

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Post by paulfeakins » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:34 pm

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Thanks for the feedback!
If this answers your question, please add [SOLVED] to the start of the topic title.

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Post by thehazzard » Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:23 pm

The problem later on wheb you use 3.0.3.9 will be like upgrading to OC4 versions. For a lot of people this can be a big problem and then what?
You pay lots of money for a company to upgrade it for you to the latest version, and then still with rics.

Therefore you need to see what is important for your webshop.
Myself i have installed 4.0.2.3 for now With Journal thema. And it works fine for now.

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Post by paulfeakins » Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:50 pm

thehazzard wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:23 pm
The problem later on wheb you use 3.0.3.9 will be like upgrading to OC4 versions. For a lot of people this can be a big problem and then what?
You pay lots of money for a company to upgrade it for you to the latest version, and then still with rics.
In my opinion, 3.0.3.9 will be a solid version for many years to come.

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Post by IP_CAM » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:40 pm

Well, it's of little or no use, to tell them, those forever-Upgraders always expect latest Versions to be best. If they would be successful in Business, they would not even think about scrapping a working Onlineshop.

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Post by JNeuhoff » Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:24 pm

paulfeakins wrote:
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In my opinion, 3.0.3.9 will be a solid version for many years to come.
Either that, or the OC 3.0.x.x (upcoming 3.0.4.0).

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Post by straightlight » Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:45 pm

paulfeakins wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:50 pm
thehazzard wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:23 pm
The problem later on wheb you use 3.0.3.9 will be like upgrading to OC4 versions. For a lot of people this can be a big problem and then what?
You pay lots of money for a company to upgrade it for you to the latest version, and then still with rics.
In my opinion, 3.0.3.9 will be a solid version for many years to come.
So will 3.2.

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Post by paulfeakins » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 pm

straightlight wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:45 pm
So will 3.2.
No such version.

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Post by JNeuhoff » Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:35 am

paulfeakins wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 pm
straightlight wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:45 pm
So will 3.2.
No such version.
He meant 3.2.0.0.

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Post by straightlight » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:44 am

paulfeakins wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 pm
straightlight wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:45 pm
So will 3.2.
No such version.
https://github.com/opencart/opencart-3/ ... dex.php#L3

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Post by paulfeakins » Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:31 pm

straightlight wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:44 am
paulfeakins wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 pm
straightlight wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:45 pm
So will 3.2.
No such version.
https://github.com/opencart/opencart-3/ ... dex.php#L3
Version numbers are not like a decimal where you can leave off the zeros, you should always quote all four digits to avoid confusion.

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Post by straightlight » Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:04 am

paulfeakins wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:31 pm
straightlight wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:44 am
paulfeakins wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:27 pm

No such version.
https://github.com/opencart/opencart-3/ ... dex.php#L3
Version numbers are not like a decimal where you can leave off the zeros, you should always quote all four digits to avoid confusion.
When leaving off zeroes leads to confusion, then I can't imagine when there's only one digit provided by other users.

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Post by hpwebdesign » Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:16 pm

For anyone that wanna use OC 4 here is the simple guide lines:

1. Check your preferred Theme
-- Only some theme that has OC 3 compatibility 2 most notable one are:
-- Journal theme and So Emarket

2. Extensions
-- Yes, too little developer support for OC 4: since only experienced developer would be able to develop extension under OC 4.
-- Search your preferred partner for relevant extensions on OC 4
-- Eg: checkout extensions, payment gateways, etc.
-- I my self gradually migrating my 90s OpenCart 3.x extensions into OC 4 compatible: https://hpwebdesign.io/products?ff4=14


The rest of the thing is relatively the same.

I've been assisting clients to launch several websites on OC 4, migrating from OC 3.x to OC 4, and develop extension for OC 4.
I'm proud that OpenCart can go this far.
I like the Ajax based save on admin setting: save any setting without refresh.
And PHP 8.x compatibility

We: developer will eventually create OC 4 extensions just like we did on OC 3.x.
So: don't worry too much about it.

** In case anyone need professional service for OC 4:
https://hpwebdesign.io/products/hire-pr ... -developer

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Post by JNeuhoff » Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:22 pm

hpwebdesign wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:16 pm
For anyone that wanna use OC 4 here is the simple guide lines:

1. Check your preferred Theme
-- Only some theme that has OC 3 compatibility 2 most notable one are:
-- Journal theme and So Emarket
Bad advice. The Journal framework is one of the worst 3rd party OpenCart extensions, it will clash with many other extensions and doesn't follow OpenCart standards. The So Emarket is quite blown up and slow, with over 60 css files and over 30 js files for a simple product page. These are examples on how not to do a good looking high performance and standard-compliant themes.

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Post by paulfeakins » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:32 pm

JNeuhoff wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:22 pm
Bad advice. The Journal framework is one of the worst 3rd party OpenCart extensions, it will clash with many other extensions and doesn't follow OpenCart standards. The So Emarket is quite blown up and slow, with over 60 css files and over 30 js files for a simple product page. These are examples on how not to do a good looking high performance and standard-compliant themes.
Indeed, even more info here: viewtopic.php?t=157098

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