Can someone from the development team give an explanation on why you have put 32 characters limit for this thing?
First, you haven't included 2 order status names:
- Paid from customer and waiting for distributor availability
- Paid from customer and also paid to the distributor
So how am I supposed to edit the order status name to give both myself and the customer this explanation?
Why is the reason of putting only 32 characters limit on this?
It's probably just an oversight. If you want to make that limit higher, you need to do two things:
1. Change the column type on the "name" column of the "order_status" database table from VARCHAR(32) to something higher like VARCHAR(64).
2. Modify the code that checks for that limit, like this:
That will remove any limit from the form check. Just keep in mind that it will still get cut off based on the VARCHAR length you set, so it will need to be between 32 and 255 characters. If you want it higher, you'd change the column type to TEXT instead.
1. Change the column type on the "name" column of the "order_status" database table from VARCHAR(32) to something higher like VARCHAR(64).
2. Modify the code that checks for that limit, like this:
Code: Select all
IN:
/admin/controller/localisation/order_status.php
REPLACE:
if ((utf8_strlen($value['name']) < 3) || (utf8_strlen($value['name']) > 32)) {
WITH:
if ((utf8_strlen($value['name']) < 3)) {That will remove any limit from the form check. Just keep in mind that it will still get cut off based on the VARCHAR length you set, so it will need to be between 32 and 255 characters. If you want it higher, you'd change the column type to TEXT instead.
I don't control the OpenCart code, so while I can put in a request to have this changed, it would be up to Daniel (the OpenCart owner). Since he designed it this way, I doubt he's willing to change it without a lot of people requesting it.
However, if you need to make a change outside the core files, try using vQmod or ocMod to do it. That way it exists outside the actual file, but can make changes to your installation. This is how most extensions work that need to do core file changes, so they aren't affected by upgrading OpenCart.
However, if you need to make a change outside the core files, try using vQmod or ocMod to do it. That way it exists outside the actual file, but can make changes to your installation. This is how most extensions work that need to do core file changes, so they aren't affected by upgrading OpenCart.
Or, with the use of Events.
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
Programmer / Opencart Tester
Well you can add whatever order status is required for your business - so your point is completely invalid.GWShop wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:15 amCan someone from the development team give an explanation on why you have put 32 characters limit for this thing?
First, you haven't included 2 order status names:
- Paid from customer and waiting for distributor availability
- Paid from customer and also paid to the distributor
So how am I supposed to edit the order status name to give both myself and the customer this explanation?
Why is the reason of putting only 32 characters limit on this?
99% of the time the 32 character limit is adequate.
It is very easy to overcome your problems, when you get your head around how to use opencart you will realise you made a fuss about nothing
ie you want -waiting for distributor availability - use - waiting on distributor to lessen characters required, just shorten the text someway it is far simpler and easier than messing about with the code.
Bullshitmikeinterserv wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:40 pm
Well you can add whatever order status is required for your business - so your point is completely invalid.
99% of the time the 32 character limit is adequate.
It is very easy to overcome your problems, when you get your head around how to use opencart you will realise you made a fuss about nothing
ie you want -waiting for distributor availability - use - waiting on distributor to lessen characters required, just shorten the text someway it is far simpler and easier than messing about with the code.
Perhaps in english.
In Dutch and various other languages 32 character limit is far to short.
Koeltechnische deurrubbers eenvoudig online op maat bestellen.
Alle niet stekplichtige onderdelen zoals scharnieren, sloten, randverwarming en verlichting voor alle typen koelingen en vriezers.
https://koelcel-onderdelen.com
Most providers requires order statuses to be lookup in English on anyhow.
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
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Wake up !!!straightlight wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:24 amMost providers requires order statuses to be lookup in English on anyhow.
More people in this world do speak a language other than english.
the world is bigger as you think.
in europe native langauge is required.
Koeltechnische deurrubbers eenvoudig online op maat bestellen.
Alle niet stekplichtige onderdelen zoals scharnieren, sloten, randverwarming en verlichting voor alle typen koelingen en vriezers.
https://koelcel-onderdelen.com
OK we get it
You never heard of abbreviations before ?
Anyway it is very easy to change the character limit to whatever you want.
You never heard of abbreviations before ?
Anyway it is very easy to change the character limit to whatever you want.
Been there done that.mikeinterserv wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:20 amOK we get it
You never heard of abbreviations before ?
Anyway it is very easy to change the character limit to whatever you want.
Opencart is developed by developers, and used by commercialy driven users.
Opencart is a sales platform.
So opencart should be developed how a salesman wants his site to work, not how a developer thinks it should be used.
So if someone states 32 characters aint enough, a developer should not say yes its enough, he or she just has to increase a amount of characters.
I am running a webshop and started with oc 1.4, my webshop is highly modified to suit my needs, and in this yourney i did contact many developers.
Most of them just are not capable of delivering what i needed, Because they don't understand how ecomerce works.
if you would take a look at my order status list, it realy is a long list and you would understand dutch, than it would make sens that 32 charaters is at least 40 characters to short.
what is the problem of expanding these fields to 64 /90 or even 128/256 caracters, database getting bigger, who cares
I realy am very interested what the reason is developers think these stupid limits should be used.
Koeltechnische deurrubbers eenvoudig online op maat bestellen.
Alle niet stekplichtige onderdelen zoals scharnieren, sloten, randverwarming en verlichting voor alle typen koelingen en vriezers.
https://koelcel-onderdelen.com
Simple. Database fields size aren't unlimited either.victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:48 amBeen there done that.mikeinterserv wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:20 amOK we get it
You never heard of abbreviations before ?
Anyway it is very easy to change the character limit to whatever you want.
Opencart is developed by developers, and used by commercialy driven users.
Opencart is a sales platform.
So opencart should be developed how a salesman wants his site to work, not how a developer thinks it should be used.
So if someone states 32 characters aint enough, a developer should not say yes its enough, he or she just has to increase a amount of characters.
I am running a webshop and started with oc 1.4, my webshop is highly modified to suit my needs, and in this yourney i did contact many developers.
Most of them just are not capable of delivering what i needed, Because they don't understand how ecomerce works.
if you would take a look at my order status list, it realy is a long list and you would understand dutch, than it would make sens that 32 charaters is at least 40 characters to short.
what is the problem of expanding these fields to 64 /90 or even 128/256 caracters, database getting bigger, who cares
I realy am very interested what the reason is developers think these stupid limits should be used.
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
Programmer / Opencart Tester
No one is prevented to use their own language keys matched with the English language from the controllers still when developing their extensions.victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:49 amWake up !!!straightlight wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:24 amMost providers requires order statuses to be lookup in English on anyhow.
More people in this world do speak a language other than english.
the world is bigger as you think.
in europe native langauge is required.
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
Programmer / Opencart Tester
Stop thinking in your own little world.straightlight wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:04 amNo one is prevented to use their own language keys matched with the English language from the controllers still when developing their extensions.victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:49 amWake up !!!straightlight wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:24 amMost providers requires order statuses to be lookup in English on anyhow.
More people in this world do speak a language other than english.
the world is bigger as you think.
in europe native langauge is required.
start thinking outside the box, try to understand needs from people who rely use the product, and act to and think what they need
Koeltechnische deurrubbers eenvoudig online op maat bestellen.
Alle niet stekplichtige onderdelen zoals scharnieren, sloten, randverwarming en verlichting voor alle typen koelingen en vriezers.
https://koelcel-onderdelen.com
Well, you could argue all you want about it but the reality is that whatever's restricted in there is up to the OC developers to decide. It's been like that since the beginning and that won't seem to change no matter what ways you may choose to address the issue.victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:11 amStop thinking in your own little world.straightlight wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:04 amNo one is prevented to use their own language keys matched with the English language from the controllers still when developing their extensions.
start thinking outside the box, try to understand needs from people who rely use the product, and act to and think what they need
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
Programmer / Opencart Tester
Well as a developer some db fields are limited, depends on the use etc.victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:48 amBeen there done that.
Opencart is developed by developers, and used by commercialy driven users.
Opencart is a sales platform.
So opencart should be developed how a salesman wants his site to work, not how a developer thinks it should be used.
So if someone states 32 characters aint enough, a developer should not say yes its enough, he or she just has to increase a amount of characters.
I am running a webshop and started with oc 1.4, my webshop is highly modified to suit my needs, and in this yourney i did contact many developers.
Most of them just are not capable of delivering what i needed, Because they don't understand how ecomerce works.
if you would take a look at my order status list, it realy is a long list and you would understand dutch, than it would make sens that 32 charaters is at least 40 characters to short.
what is the problem of expanding these fields to 64 /90 or even 128/256 caracters, database getting bigger, who cares
I realy am very interested what the reason is developers think these stupid limits should be used.
I can see you need more characters, clearly. That is NOT a problem for even an inexperienced developer to solve, as you say you have.
The majority of users have no problem with it or adapt it to their needs. I don't understand why your so upset about it.
BTW try WELSH its beyond Dutch :-)
Also DBs should be designed to be as compact and efficient as possible hence limits. Adapted to ones needs
+1.000 to Victorj
victorj wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:48 amI realy am very interested what the reason is developers think these stupid limits should be used.mikeinterserv wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:20 amOpencart is developed by developers, and used by commercialy driven users.
Opencart is a sales platform.
So opencart should be developed how a salesman wants his site to work, not how a developer thinks it should be used.
Did you put a request please for future version changes?Johnathan wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:22 pmI don't control the OpenCart code, so while I can put in a request to have this changed, it would be up to Daniel (the OpenCart owner). Since he designed it this way, I doubt he's willing to change it without a lot of people requesting it.
However, if you need to make a change outside the core files, try using vQmod or ocMod to do it. That way it exists outside the actual file, but can make changes to your installation. This is how most extensions work that need to do core file changes, so they aren't affected by upgrading OpenCart.
It's not convenient having to change 5-10 stuff after every update that we do.
Thank you.
To keep DB's compact and efficient, prevent abuse, etc etc etc.
YOU are allowed to make a DB just any way you want - just how you like it, same as anybody else, so what's the problem.
Search the forum - what your complaining about does NOT exist for 99.99% and if anyone had an issue then they just fixed it.
From a programming point of view you are right.mikeinterserv wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:49 am
To keep DB's compact and efficient, prevent abuse, etc etc etc.
YOU are allowed to make a DB just any way you want - just how you like it, same as anybody else, so what's the problem.
Search the forum - what your complaining about does NOT exist for 99.99% and if anyone had an issue then they just fixed it.
From a commercial user view youre wrong.
Opencart is a commercial product used by commercial driven people who want to sell and make a profit.
Opencart is produced by people are technical minded.
Here lies the problem, (most) developers are not thinking in ecommerce and certainly lack expierience in actually generating money and running and maintaining a online store, and everything related with running a live store.
I know my way around OC, and am capable of doing what is needed to make my shop suit my needs.
As you can see, i have been around this forum for a pretty long time, and have seen that this forum once very lively with numerous posts and helpfull community, willing to help anyone with a problem, has fallen down to almost dead, since certain developers took over the roll of moderator.
Koeltechnische deurrubbers eenvoudig online op maat bestellen.
Alle niet stekplichtige onderdelen zoals scharnieren, sloten, randverwarming en verlichting voor alle typen koelingen en vriezers.
https://koelcel-onderdelen.com
- I am not entirely sure on what this means since Opencart is a free Open Source platform delivered out-of-the-box from Opencart.com and always has been.victorj wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:15 amFrom a programming point of view you are right.mikeinterserv wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:49 am
To keep DB's compact and efficient, prevent abuse, etc etc etc.
YOU are allowed to make a DB just any way you want - just how you like it, same as anybody else, so what's the problem.
Search the forum - what your complaining about does NOT exist for 99.99% and if anyone had an issue then they just fixed it.
From a commercial user view youre wrong.
Opencart is a commercial product used by commercial driven people who want to sell and make a profit.
Opencart is produced by people are technical minded.
Here lies the problem, (most) developers are not thinking in ecommerce and certainly lack expierience in actually generating money and running and maintaining a online store, and everything related with running a live store.
I know my way around OC, and am capable of doing what is needed to make my shop suit my needs.
As you can see, i have been around this forum for a pretty long time, and have seen that this forum once very lively with numerous posts and helpfull community, willing to help anyone with a problem, has fallen down to almost dead, since certain developers took over the roll of moderator.
- As for took over part, I am not sure what this means either since the Commercial Support section of the forum and the forum supporters providing their assistance, either freely or for Commercial purposes, did not stopped them from anything regardless of the moderators who did came along in the past. With that being said, I mean ...; I've been around on the forum for a long time myself and I haven't seen any limitations on that side.
Dedication and passion goes to those who are able to push and merge a project.
Regards,
Straightlight
Programmer / Opencart Tester
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