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No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:30 pm
by daniel7912
Hi,
A client has asked me to alter his website so that customer's can pay via google checkout & paypal, without needing to register. They would still be able to register, then log in and pay etc if they wanted to though.
I've managed to do this with google checkout and that was fairly easy, but how would I do this with paypal?
Thanks for any help.
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:15 pm
by JAY6390
Register with the store or with paypal?
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:33 pm
by daniel7912
Without being registered to the store i mean. They would just be taken to the paypal checkout without needing to log in to the store
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:29 pm
by JAY6390
Open your admin area, go to SYSTEM > SETTINGS and change the Guest checkout option to yes
-- IMAGE REMOVED --
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:37 pm
by Qphoria
You will need the Paypal Express module
here to allow similar behavior that google checkout offers
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:41 pm
by JAY6390
Ahhhhhh you wanted to use paypal without leaving your store?
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:55 pm
by daniel7912
Qphoria wrote:You will need the Paypal Express module
here to allow similar behavior that google checkout offers
This looks perfect for what the client wants, but unfortunately I don't think they are willing to pay the $30 fee for it. Are there any free alternatives out there?
Jay, thanks for your help..I've already got guest checkout enabled but basically the client wants customers to be able to purchase whats in their cart without entering ANY information, like name, address etc.
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:03 pm
by JAY6390
Ah I see. If the client isn't willing to pay $30 to have that functionality then they're really not thinking clearly imo. What is worth more to them, $30 or a checkout that they want - It's peanuts really
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:48 am
by Xsecrets
the only free one I know of that allows checkout without entering any information is google checkout. There is not a free paypal express checkout (though it seems that the customer is not willing to pay a 1 time $30 for the express checkout module when they have to pay paypal $30/month to use it).
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:36 am
by daniel7912
I persuaded them that this would be the best option, at least from I can see and they have agreed to purchase the license so everyones happy!
thanks for all the help, appreciated

Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:28 am
by daniel7912
I've bought & installed this now, but is there any way that I can move it into the left module column?
It appeared in the right column by default and I cant see any options where I can change this. I have google checkout in the left hand column so I want to place this with that ideally, without having to alter the template alot.
Please help!
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:40 am
by Qphoria
Xsecrets wrote:the only free one I know of that allows checkout without entering any information is google checkout. There is not a free paypal express checkout (though it seems that the customer is not willing to pay a 1 time $30 for the express checkout module when they have to pay paypal $30/month to use it).
Whoa whoa... Paypal Express does NOT charge a monthly fee. The Paypal Express service is free with any normal Paypal standard account. Anybody can use Paypal Express once they get the module installed.
Only Paypal Pro and Paypal Payflow charge a monthly fee
daniel7912 wrote:I've bought & installed this now, but is there any way that I can move it into the left module column?
It appeared in the right column by default and I cant see any options where I can change this. I have google checkout in the left hand column so I want to place this with that ideally, without having to alter the template alot.
Please help!
I realized that I forgot to allow custom choice for module position.
I will add that in the next version
For now you can change it here:
1. EDIT: admin/controller/payment/paypal_express.php
2. FIND:
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$this->request->post['paypal_express_position'] = 'right';
3. REPLACE WITH:
Code: Select all
$this->request->post['paypal_express_position'] = 'left';
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:44 am
by daniel7912
Thanks very much qphoria, I had a look for something like that but didnt really know where to look, thats great. I appreciate the quick reply too

Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:53 am
by daniel7912
I've just tried editing that file but for some reason it is still in the right hand column (I used firebug to check). Is there anything else i need to change?
edit: just worked out that i needed to uninstalled it from the admin area then install it again. It works now! Thanks again qphoria
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:27 am
by Qphoria
Yea.. sorry. I forgot I "hacked" the position during install. I'll add a proper setting for it
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:05 am
by Xsecrets
Qphoria wrote:
Whoa whoa... Paypal Express does NOT charge a monthly fee. The Paypal Express service is free with any normal Paypal standard account. Anybody can use Paypal Express once they get the module installed.
wow this must be a new development. I actually haven't looked at express in a couple of years, but back then you had to basically have pro in order to use express.
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:48 am
by Qphoria
Xsecrets wrote:Qphoria wrote:
Whoa whoa... Paypal Express does NOT charge a monthly fee. The Paypal Express service is free with any normal Paypal standard account. Anybody can use Paypal Express once they get the module installed.
wow this must be a new development. I actually haven't looked at express in a couple of years, but back then you had to basically have pro in order to use express.
Not that I've ever known. The rule is that technically Paypal Pro "requires" Paypal Express to be an option. It's a very strange design that we don't really follow with the opencart pp pro module. Mainly because it is ridiculously stupid. You pay $30/mo to allow customers to pay on your site with their credit card and not leave, but paypal wants you to also put a pp express option on your cart as part of the package which completely defeats the purpose.
/middle finger extends towards paypal....
But IPN was a fix for the unreliability of customers clicking "Return to Merchant"
Express was a fix for the unreliability of IPN
Express should hopefully be reliable now

Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:34 pm
by idanlevy
problem with language that paypal not support
for example: hebrew,arabic,etc'
the page not get the details and the user cant pay!
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:38 pm
by Qphoria
idanlevy wrote:problem with language that paypal not support
for example: hebrew,arabic,etc'
the page not get the details and the user cant pay!
Is this 2 separate issues? For which? the paypal express mod?
Re: No-registration paypal payment
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:38 pm
by idanlevy
i dont have the paypal express but i think this issue is for that too
paypal say that she cant get the details because she not support the language...
how to fix that?