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but 1.4.9.3 is still bug free at the moment so I've nothing to do but kickback and drink me some spiked egg nog

OC 1.4.9 is a brilliant shopping cart as it is. So whenever 1.5 turns out to be ready it'll be like a massive bonus!

Have a really nice Christmas everyone, especially Daniel and Q and the others working on it. I'm very grateful already for what you've done.

Qphoria wrote:but 1.4.9.3 is still bug free at the moment so I've nothing to do but kickback and drink me some spiked egg nog

that is if you ignore bugs that come from previous versions

Hint

i2Paq wrote:

Qphoria wrote:but 1.4.9.3 is still bug free at the moment so I've nothing to do but kickback and drink me some spiked egg nog

that is if you ignore bugs that come from previous versions

And I do but that hint was after the latest version was released. And nobody in any of the cool countries uses invoice numbers

Qphoria wrote:And nobody in any of the cool countries uses invoice numbers

How do you differentiate them then?

We use the order id. We have no tax requirements that the numbers must be sequential. That can be faked anyway so i don't really understand it

I don't think our tax systems require it, but I personally like to have it for internal recordkeeping purposes. A more complicated business with several independent stores would presumably also need it for that reason.

True. But I dont know why you'd want to reset it

Maybe if your business changed to a new trading name or was bought out by another company, or something like that.

Qphoria wrote:True. But I dont know why you'd want to reset it

Starting of the new year the invoice number changes to, from 2010-460 to 2011-1.

That fact that "you" do not use it or find it ridiculous to use/change Invoice numbers does not have the mean that the bug should not be solved or that "we" should just tell our Lawmakers "stuff it, our software has a bug so we are not going to apply to the Law".

Thanks to Daniel, Q and all the others who give up time to help others on the forum:

TAC wrote:Have a really nice Christmas everyone, especially Daniel and Q and the others working on it. I'm very grateful already for what you've done.

Well said - I am happily using v1.4.8b (plus various patches) and running a happy small e-commerce site without problems! I am not a developer - but have learnt loads about php (and a little about mvc!) by "playing" with v1.4.9 on my localhost machine. Really looking forward to doing the same with v1.5.0 and upgrading at some point in the future - but have no rush as the current OC versions are perfectly stable and work perfectly well.

So Happy Christmas, take some well-deserved time off and thanks for all the hard work!

i2Paq wrote:

Qphoria wrote:True. But I dont know why you'd want to reset it

Starting of the new year the invoice number changes to, from 2010-460 to 2011-1.

That fact that "you" do not use it or find it ridiculous to use/change Invoice numbers does not have the mean that the bug should not be solved or that "we" should just tell our Lawmakers "stuff it, our software has a bug so we are not going to apply to the Law".

LOL I disagree.. so stuff it!

Sorry but I didn't understand , will we have the new 1.5 version this month or not??

ikhlief wrote:Sorry but I didn't understand , will we have the new 1.5 version this month or not??

Considering that this month has 3 days left, and most items on roadmap seem pending http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=feature/roadmap it seems highly unikely that 1.5.0 will be released this month.

Then again, Daniel believes more in doing than in writing about the doing, so maybe it will be released this month.

In short, the answer to your question is the often repeated we'll know when we know...

hmmm, looks like that roadmap is going to wipe out some paid extensions.

If that is the case, why not just ask the developers to donate their work, modify and move on

Apple, normally, just writes their own copy ...
M$ just buys out the competition...
Google tries stuff and ... well tries some more stuff ...
Yahoo just buys the competition and then can't make it fit or they build cool stuff (YUI) but don't seem to use it ...
Oracle buys out the competition and just charges you more for it ...

i2Paq wrote:That fact that "you" do not use it or find it ridiculous to use/change Invoice numbers does not have the mean that the bug should not be solved or that "we" should just tell our Lawmakers "stuff it, our software has a bug so we are not going to apply to the Law".

As it turns out, there is an EU standard (http://www.finvoice.eu/en-US/european-standard.php and http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/pay ... dex_en.htm), in addition to country-specific requirements. At the very least, the EU requirements need to be met.

Implementation guide: http://www.finvoice.eu/resources/finvoi ... -guide.pdf
Sample: http://www.finvoice.eu/resources/instance1.xml

It's too bad nobody brought up SOX issues (no not the red or white ones ).
I guess that it is because you need to be listed and have 50 employees ... I think that was it.

however, the more I think of it ... that's sad ....

Irrespective of legal requirements, invoicing systems, hooks or any other criteria, the one thing that is going to benefit most users, is for the poor old customer to finally see what the shipping charges are, WITHOUT having to go through the farce of filling in forms to get that basic piece of information. I don't know what brain cell it was that originally thought of that principle, other than to say it was long before Opencart (and others) came on the scene.

I am hoping that 2011 will be the year that OpenCart starts to make a serious attempt at kicking the skids from under the opposition. That means the final program needs to be reliable, but above all, very user friendly for the person sitting at the very end of the line; the web shop customer wanting to make a purchase. That is the ONLY person any shopping cart software should truly focus on.

OpenCart has a unique opportunity to be different from the other carts out there. Evolution is a wonderful thing, but dinosaurs like Zen just aren't adapting quickly enough to a rapidly changing world. For OpenCart to become one of the dominant species, it must always focus on making things easy for the shop owner and the shop customer. Lose that basic concept and you rapidly lose the plot of what ecommerce SHOULD be about.

Sorry, but when is the 1.5 is coming out?

Tom

You didn't ask that question, did you