Post by CUSTOM_UK » Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:39 pm

Without turning this thread into a big debate on SEO, I am a great believer in a site being product lead.

You can SEO a product to death and there are hundreds of unscrupulous individuals out there that will part you from your cash in that quest. You can incorporate flash slideshows onto your web and have every perceived 'must have' web design element on your site, but if your products are shite, overpriced, always out of stock, you charge extorionate prices for shipping and can never be bothered to respond to customer communications for days on end, then nothing is ever going to help you out.

You'd be amazed how many organisations on the front pages of Google fit that description perfectly.

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Post by JAY6390 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:17 pm

lol I can think of a couple straight away O0

@Xsecrets, yeah it is a pain, people like to follow trends, and once they got the bug for SEO URL's it's all been mental since 8)

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Post by scanreg » Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:01 pm

sef urls are good for other kinds of sales generation such as regular ad promotions beyond search engines. let's say you wanted to run a special on shoes in a newspaper, you could say in your ad "hi, go to our site, http://www.site.com/shoes" versus http://www.site.com/index.php?cat=3&promo=9 (or something)

BTW, the OC 1.5.0 roadmap is amazing:

http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=feature/roadmap

can't wait to see it, super!

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Post by Daniel » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:09 am

There are quite a few little bits that are not in the roadmap such as using autocomplete to add things like related products that other carts don't seem to have. after playing around with this stuff it really makes things a lot easier.

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Post by muflon » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:54 am

Daniel wrote:There are quite a few little bits that are not in the roadmap such as using autocomplete to add things like related products that other carts don't seem to have. after playing around with this stuff it really makes things a lot easier.
It would be awesome to make related products smart e.g if you sign that product2 is related to product1 then automatically product1 is related to product2. It can save half of work :)

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Post by Xsecrets » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:27 am

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Daniel wrote:There are quite a few little bits that are not in the roadmap such as using autocomplete to add things like related products that other carts don't seem to have. after playing around with this stuff it really makes things a lot easier.
It would be awesome to make related products smart e.g if you sign that product2 is related to product1 then automatically product1 is related to product2. It can save half of work :)
If I'm not mistaken that was added in 1.4.9

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Post by JAY6390 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:30 am

Yeah, might even have been 1.4.8 actually

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Post by Qphoria » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:05 pm

Yea was added 1.4.8

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Post by Daniel » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:53 am

I have already had an anwser from Q about this but who thinks i should use ajax form methods. so form data will be posted without reloading the pages?

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Post by JAY6390 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:23 am

Sounds good to me

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Post by gocreative » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:24 am

As long as there's a fallback then I don't see an issue.

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:32 am

Daniel wrote:I have already had an anwser from Q about this but who thinks i should use ajax form methods. so form data will be posted without reloading the pages?
I'm all for Ajax powered forms. I used a form plugin for Rapid Weaver CMS that utilized Ajax javascript and it was really nice. Would be cool if OpenCart had this too.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:12 am

I will vote again. Yes :)

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Post by Daniel » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:15 am

oneilldesign wrote:As long as there's a fallback then I don't see an issue.

what do you mean? you mean if there is no javascript then the form works normally? It won't happen. JS will be required for everything.

I don;t know where you get the idea that sites shoudl run without JS. JS can not be disabled in htrml5. the noscript tag will be removed.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:21 am

yea.. OpenCart already is dependent on JS and always has been.. No point in backing down now. JS is here to stay

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Post by gocreative » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:27 am

I meant more in terms of having backup pages/functions in the case that a website is (for whatever reason) not handling AJAX properly. Quite a lot of sites use AJAX these days but many don't provide an alternative, so when you attempt to fill out a form which uses AJAX, for example, sometimes there's an error loading the form and then you're stuck. Some sites provide an alternative page/method.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:23 am

In the case of Ajax vs page post, I suppose it is something that could be done. Technically if the form has an action, then the submit will process the post. If javascript is installed and working, then the submit event would be caught and stopped and then ajax would handle it. So by default, if coded correctly, it should automatically fallback, so you are correct.

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Post by Xsecrets » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:21 pm

I say go for it.

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Post by i2Paq » Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:10 pm

Yep, Ajax, why not.

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:54 pm

Daniel wrote:I have already had an anwser from Q about this but who thinks i should use ajax form methods. so form data will be posted without reloading the pages?
You might wanna take a look at this link. http://www.yabdab.com/formloom/index.php

It's the form plug in I mentioned I used with Rapid Weaver CMS, and it creates really beautiful ajax powered forms. There's even a sample form here http://www.yabdab.com/formloom-sample/,

Have a look....maybe it will give some inspiration. :)

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