Post by mberlant » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:39 am

@asphole - It was not my intention to contradict what you were saying, but rather to confirm it by reinforcing that the application of a gift voucher is a payment function and not a discount function. Therefore, it belongs together with the other payment methods.

@everyone - Whether we call this problem a bug or not, the fact remains that if it is not corrected by the time 1.5.0.stable is released it will adversely affect our ability to sell merchandise using OpenCart.

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Post by SapporoGuy » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:13 am

+1 on design logic flaw
-1 as being "not considered as" bug but as feature request

I'm surprised nobody defined the meaning for "feature request" as personally don't see how it could be considered a feature request if a shopper has trouble entering their "voucher code".

Maybe we should have a thread for not only "design" changes but also for "logic and shopping experience" changes. This would also allow those who want the javascript/ajax changes and such to post.

Beyond this what happens if a voucher is for "any" product compared to "single" product? This might be what is causing the issue with Daniel's decision ...

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Post by i2Paq » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:50 pm

The function works as designed, that YOU do not like it there or that it looks like it is not in the right position does not make it a BUG.

You want it somewhere else, that is a Request For Change, also known as RFC.

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Post by SapporoGuy » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:08 pm

Who is YOU ???

I think that a lot of shop owners are thinking that their "customers" want it there .... ;)

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Post by sunburn1979 » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:26 pm

Every e-Commerce system I have used always have the Gift Voucher/Discount Code option within the checkout page, this is by design for the best possible End User Experience. Hopefully Daniel, will agree and find time to change his code to reflect whats best for the 'End User' and the store owner.

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Post by Daniel » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:20 pm

look I agree but there is not a lot of room on the checkout page.

also coupons and reward points need to be on the cart page because if you using google checkout or paypal express you checkout on the cart page and the discounts need to be applied before people leave the site.

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Post by aturbide » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:05 pm

Perhaps for those that need it, a simple change can be done to link the ajax cart checkout button to checkout/cart instead of checkout/checkout and thus give the users the option to enter their codes and checkout after. It only gives an extra click. This of course would entail the removal of the checkout menu option in the header and keeping only the shopping cart menu item (perhaps renaming it to checkout instead). This would force all checkouts to go via the cart first. All this can be done at the cart.tpl template by doing a replace on the checkout link and the removal/change of the checkout link in the header template. Of course, the checkout/checkout link in the ajax cart in the header can be also changed in common.js

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Post by asphole » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:28 pm

Less than 5% of my customers use google checkout. (And I run over 30 BUSY ecommerce stores) I cannot see how 1 more accordian level is going to affect the checkout page?

Alternatively, as previously discussed, why not just route the checkout button through the cart? I GUARANTEE a lot of shop owners will spend way too much time answerig emails about where to enter the coupon/voucher if its left as it is as it is not intutive.

I know this can be done by indivdual shop owners but these will then break and need redoing after every update. There HAS to be a better way of doing this as it is not intuitive at all. Ask yourselves how you would do it if you were purchasing from a website? When you have added all the items to your shopping cart and are ready to checkout would you:

A:Click the Cart button
B:Click the Checkout button

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Post by Daniel » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:39 pm

asphole wrote:Less than 5% of my customers use google checkout. (And I run over 30 BUSY ecommerce stores) I cannot see how 1 more accordian level is going to affect the checkout page?

Alternatively, as previously discussed, why not just route the checkout button through the cart? I GUARANTEE a lot of shop owners will spend way too much time answerig emails about where to enter the coupon/voucher if its left as it is as it is not intutive.

I know this can be done by indivdual shop owners but these will then break and need redoing after every update. There HAS to be a better way of doing this as it is not intuitive at all. Ask yourselves how you would do it if you were purchasing from a website? When you have added all the items to your shopping cart and are ready to checkout would you:

A:Click the Cart button
B:Click the Checkout button
getting rid of the checkout links sounds a good idea.

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Post by asphole » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:53 pm

Daniel wrote:
asphole wrote:Less than 5% of my customers use google checkout. (And I run over 30 BUSY ecommerce stores) I cannot see how 1 more accordian level is going to affect the checkout page?

Alternatively, as previously discussed, why not just route the checkout button through the cart? I GUARANTEE a lot of shop owners will spend way too much time answerig emails about where to enter the coupon/voucher if its left as it is as it is not intutive.

I know this can be done by indivdual shop owners but these will then break and need redoing after every update. There HAS to be a better way of doing this as it is not intuitive at all. Ask yourselves how you would do it if you were purchasing from a website? When you have added all the items to your shopping cart and are ready to checkout would you:

A:Click the Cart button
B:Click the Checkout button
getting rid of the checkout links sounds a good idea.
And probably the quickest/easiest method of keeping everybody happy.

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Post by celestial » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:41 pm

asphole wrote:
Daniel wrote:
asphole wrote:Less than 5% of my customers use google checkout. (And I run over 30 BUSY ecommerce stores) I cannot see how 1 more accordian level is going to affect the checkout page?

Alternatively, as previously discussed, why not just route the checkout button through the cart? I GUARANTEE a lot of shop owners will spend way too much time answerig emails about where to enter the coupon/voucher if its left as it is as it is not intutive.

I know this can be done by indivdual shop owners but these will then break and need redoing after every update. There HAS to be a better way of doing this as it is not intuitive at all. Ask yourselves how you would do it if you were purchasing from a website? When you have added all the items to your shopping cart and are ready to checkout would you:

A:Click the Cart button
B:Click the Checkout button
getting rid of the checkout links sounds a good idea.
And probably the quickest/easiest method of keeping everybody happy.
I am happy because the OWNER PROJECT take care of this, thanks Daniel GOOOOOD JOB and please dont let us alone again.

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Post by pierrelejohn » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:03 pm

didn't notice this when i posted in the bug thread

Im new to opencart, and used the demo on site, I can't even find how to put in a coupon - where is it - cart - checkout - finish ???

I have installed on my server and still can't find it.

so I need something special to use it ?

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Post by m3ndi3 » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:08 am

aturbide wrote:Perhaps for those that need it, a simple change can be done to link the ajax cart checkout button to checkout/cart instead of checkout/checkout and thus give the users the option to enter their codes and checkout after. It only gives an extra click. This of course would entail the removal of the checkout menu option in the header and keeping only the shopping cart menu item (perhaps renaming it to checkout instead). This would force all checkouts to go via the cart first. All this can be done at the cart.tpl template by doing a replace on the checkout link and the removal/change of the checkout link in the header template. Of course, the checkout/checkout link in the ajax cart in the header can be also changed in common.js
OMG Thank you aturbide! You actually provided an actual working answer to the problem! Under common/cart.tpl I replaced:

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<div class="checkout"><a href="<?php echo $checkout; ?>" class="button"><span><?php echo $button_checkout; ?></span></a></div>
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<div class="checkout"><a href="index.php?route=checkout/cart" class="button"><span>Continue</span></a></div>
Then I just deleted the checkout link in the header.tpl. The customers have to go through an extra step, but it's such an easy solution and I don't think they'll mind too much!

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Post by lashman » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:49 am

Thanks guys that works great.
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Post by emberscollide » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:57 am

pierrelejohn wrote:didn't notice this when i posted in the bug thread

Im new to opencart, and used the demo on site, I can't even find how to put in a coupon - where is it - cart - checkout - finish ???

I have installed on my server and still can't find it.

so I need something special to use it ?
I'm not sure if you still need this questioned answered, but the "apply discounts" menu appears in shopping cart when you have an item in your cart.

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Post by sofaking » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:49 am

For the coupon fix:-
Could you not just change the Checkout link to actually just take people to the Cart page?

It involves changing on line of code in the header file
catalog/view/theme/default/template/common/header.tpl around line 107

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  <div class="links"><a href="<?php echo $home; ?>"><?php echo $text_home; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $wishlist; ?>" id="wishlist_total"><?php echo $text_wishlist; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $account; ?>"><?php echo $text_account; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $cart; ?>"><?php echo $text_cart; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $checkout; ?>"><?php echo $text_checkout; ?></a></div>
to

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  <div class="links"><a href="<?php echo $home; ?>"><?php echo $text_home; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $wishlist; ?>" id="wishlist_total"><?php echo $text_wishlist; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $account; ?>"><?php echo $text_account; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $cart; ?>"><?php echo $text_cart; ?></a><a href="<?php echo $cart; ?>"><?php echo $text_checkout; ?></a></div>
Basically the second last checkout changed to cart

Just a though....

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Post by i2Paq » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:45 pm

sofaking wrote:For the coupon fix:-
Could you not just change the Checkout link to actually just take people to the Cart page?
I believe that this is/was the plan ;)

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Post by deurklinkje » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:49 am

i cant find the lines to change im on 1.5.5

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Post by robster » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:10 pm

Hi

I am following this thread for the same issue but now I am running 1.5.1.3. I like the fix posted by sofaking and that works fine except for the Checkout link in the drop down shopping cart box. This still goes to the checkout page. Can someone suggest a fix for that also please?

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Post by adidraga » Fri May 04, 2012 10:31 pm

This worked for me too, I've just got 1 more question about this post..

When i go to my webshop (Screenshot) and i press on the Green Button.. It still goes to the Checkout, So people can not put a Vouchercode? Is there a way to fix that too, to always go first to the cart?

so that it goes to checkout/cart ?

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