Post by butte » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:13 am

Welcome. Menu crossbar is good now. The inconspicuous TOP device that can be centered just below each image,
<a href="index.php?route=common/home">TOP</a>
will still be helpful for getting back "now" to the top, and with those it'll be where it was destined to wind up in the first place. With the scrolling it diddybops into place, without the scrolling it arrives on each place like an arrowhead. Either way it still just needs a way other than hand scrolling or jittering to return topside.

There is at the moment no "sticky" anything -- floating menus usually jitter, so hopefully you had second-thoughts about adding kitchen sinks.

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Post by improvedance » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:57 am

I dont like anything about the website to be honest, but my business partner (who has invested capital - whereas i just invest my time). Wants it like this. I basically am doing what he wants - in essence he is more a client than a business partner.

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Post by butte » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:26 am

Well, cheer up, ya done good, it is nice (even with the scrolling arrivals rather than arrowhead arrivals on targets). Still needs small TOP links or other means to return topside. Holding the Menu crossbar against top edge after going down works but hides header, and goes downward but doesn't go back up even to any skipped choice. Menu crossbar of Orders is still not going anywhere (shares foregoing problem, no "up"), Continue is required. He could have come up with far worse to like and want added.

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Post by improvedance » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:46 am

Order page should work. It should take you to a page with 3 images on it which you click depending on your region (again a feature my business partner wanted which i think looks unprofessional and stupid...) I am working on getting the menu crossbar to scroll back up to missed items but i cant figure out the script to make that work along with the script that scrolls it down. I asked on a html help forum to see if someone could look over the script i posted eariler to see if they could write one or point me in the right direction.

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Post by butte » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:02 am

Order when I bring it up does that. Left flag for Aussies, right for Americans, and middle but lowered globe for else would be bettered if resized and set in a row, both visually and so that the whole thing (above footer) takes up just one screen with no scrollbar. Check out stackoverflow.com for scrolling up. I'll look at that this evening when time permits. You could do both, first insert TOP links which probably most visitors would use anyway even before they would think to try top left to see if it goes Home, then fiddle with scrolling back up.

Order still has that unpopulated category comment below it. You can get rid of that the same way you did before.

Problem, not minor. Globe goes to products to add to cart, still done in black. American goes to stark white http: // cincinnatidancewear .com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=535 instead, in a new tab with no way back from the out-of-box OC there. Aussie similarly goes to stark white http: // www. divadancewearaustralia .com/store/p9/THE-footstretcher%E2%84%A2_%23_NOT_available_until_LATE_February_2014_%23.html instead, in a new tab with no way back from what evidently isn't even OC. Aussie moreover takes in much of the world that is supposed to be going to globe. Not good: visual jolts, different layouts to boot, unexplained mismatch between Aussie-plus and globe-overlapped sales territories. Those may be distributors or affiliates, but the sudden changes will probably cause Aussies and Americans to wonder why ImproveDance is even there.

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Post by improvedance » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:51 am

ImproveDance's owner sold the distribution rights for the USA and Australia to those two separate companies (this is why im also looking for a way to disable checkout for american and autrilians but still enable them to create an account. if i disable those two countries through admin it takes away both features) and he wanted the page set up specifically like that (like i said before, i dont like much of any of the website at all - but whatever he want because he pays me and the sales dont reflect my payment) so that page doesnt bother me because he likes it. I understand what you are saying, and i told that to my "client" (i quote client because he is more of an acquaintance i am doing this on the side for) and he likes it as is.

Got the scrolling to work even though it is a bit quarky but he likes it.

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Post by butte » Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:16 am

Well, before he shrinks all the way, partner/client/acquaintance/poof, what you've done is nice, the scrolling works but jitters to a normal extent, appearance is coherent, the Order problems (menu, oversize misplaced globe, and no category products) two posts up from here are still present, and there's not enough contrast for ready legibility in the Menu crossbar or footer. The dark greys against black are varied, topside 5A5A5A and 4B4B4B; below 5E5E5E in footer headings but 686868 in square bulleting and bottom right; and possibly others likewise dark grey. Having slightly different values in different sorts of places for whites or greys greatly simplifies relocating "just" those for sake of changing them. However, the suite of those greys is too dark. Try bringing the 5s and 4s up to 6s; and the 8s up to Bs; and the Es down to Cs. In the hexadecimal result all numbers will be in left slot, letters in right slot, in each pair for Red (left pair), Green (middle pair), Blue (right pair). THEN from the resulting 6A6A6A, 6B6B6B, 6C6C6C series inch upward, 6s to 7s to 8s to 9s. There will be a "sweet spot" where they are still subdued but become instantly legible. Mixes of blacks, greys, and whites are tricky.

When you are habituated to it you already know what it says. When it is not legible initial visitors who are not yet customers may not give a damn what it says. If they bail out and never get to the Order screen en route to the Aussie and American white eyeball jolts or even to the still black global choice, then they probably won't return. In an ideal world you would have every curious or concerned dancer and dancer's mom and grandma plus dad and gramps lookin' at 'em for what they do. Some of those folks wear eyeglasses; some of at any age can't see very well at all. Thousands of them, notwithstanding vision, will moreover have LCDs with fading fluorescent tubes behind the screens, or instead CRTs with fading guns behind or fading phosfluorescent coatings in front of the screens. Legible trumps artistic when what is to be viewed is not going to be in a French museum of art in the first place, but only on the web for selling something.

Search engines penalize print that is not visible enough, hiding white on white or black on black is worst but unduly dark greys on dark greys to blacks and unduly light greys on whites are markedly disfavored, all owing to how people have tried through the years to come up on top even with idiotic ideas intended just for machines.

The problem that remains is simply that you're close enough to having it arguably perfect to take the little steps to reach that. Retargeting the Order link buttons so that they work, putting the flags and globe in one row, removing that category box, and brightening the intentionally subdued grey texts so that they are legible should do the trick. You've made more headway than you realize.

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Post by improvedance » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:22 am

I have made a solution. Check out my page if interested:

www.improvedance.com

If you like this feature i will make a write up on how i accomplished it with the script included. I just dont want to make a write-up if the need is not there.

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