Post by rph » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:35 am

Whether you should or shouldn't upgrade any issues with 1.5.6 still need to be fixed.

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Post by olstar » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:58 pm

Hi Guys,

I had the same issue so im going with the version before.

Has anyone been able to use the latest version? If not, why is it still there? ???

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Post by bonne » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:39 pm

olstar wrote:
Has anyone been able to use the latest version? If not, why is it still there? ???
Being here for the same reason as all you others (the upgrade script error), I also wonder why 1.5.6 is still there to download if it contains a general upgrade error

Fair enough that software contains bugs, this is not where my complaints are pushed towards, but maybe some general info for us who are going into the pit reg. this. My 5 cents:

1) Put a note on the download page telling about the upgrade script error. (I expect a clean install works?)

2) What to do for us in the pit right now. Do we need to roll back (the store seems to be working and it is reporting ver. 1.5.6

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Post by butte » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:50 pm

"Fair enough that software contains bugs" answers your own question. It is "even there" because it is software, "even if" it has any bugs. People download and install or upgrade a new 1.5.y (this time 1.5.6), people encounter bugs, bugs are worked out in successive .x releases (.1, .2, etc. releases, such as 1.5.6.1 which is not out, yet). ANY prior release may seem to misbehave before its now long since known bug fixes are addressed. ANY new release may seem to misbehave before its unknown bug fixes are discovered.

In your case, since "the store seems to be working and it is reporting ver. 1.5.6" you have nothing to worry about, other than that likely any "software contains bugs" which may or may not become evident to particular users. You took the plunge and seem not to have landed on rocks.

It does not contain "a general upgrade error" but the initial releases are typically tested only in limited settings (server, etc.). Why it would be nice to tell the inexperienced, out front, not to change an entire working store before even the first .1 issues has been amply noted above in the entire thread. The abundant folks who do not read readme files will not be helped by telling them there, and many of them don't read anything on or linked-to on download pages, either.

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Post by bonne » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:06 am

butte wrote:
It does not contain "a general upgrade error" but the initial releases are typically tested only in limited settings (server, etc.). Why it would be nice to tell the inexperienced, out front, not to change an entire working store before even the first .1 issues has been amply noted above in the entire thread. The abundant folks who do not read readme files will not be helped by telling them there, and many of them don't read anything on or linked-to on download pages, either.
Thanks for clarifying. I took it as it was a general error for us who are updating (as I got the same script error in the logs as some others). But of coarse I do not know of any being able to upgrade.

As I did not complete the upgrade script successfully, I was worried about the system being left in some kind of hidden limbo state.

Don't get me wrong... I like Opencart, and please keep up the good work!

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:23 am

bonne wrote: 1) Put a note on the download page telling about the upgrade script error. (I expect a clean install works?)
Upgrade isn't broke...clean installs have similar problems. It was some mis-manangement of code and rushing to get a release out to satisfy payment partner deals with Paypal and Amazon. Unfortunately it was done by a 3rd party that doesn't follow the same code practices as the rest of the core so mistakes were made.

Best wait for 1.5.6.1

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Post by i2Paq » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:30 am

Qphoria wrote:Unfortunately it was done by a 3rd party that doesn't follow the same code practices as the rest of the core so mistakes were made.

Best wait for 1.5.6.1
I've seen the guys that did the code and I've talked to Daniel about this OpenBay add-on.
He will have a look at the code and I think he will modify it so it will be according to standard.

There was a "need" of doing a next release, I tried to convince him about the need of beta and that rushing things isn't going to help.
Hopefully he now understands ;)

He's young, compared to me, so there is hope left for him ;D

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Post by butte » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:26 am

Who wrote, proofread, approved, or whatnot what doesn't matter. The idea of expecting bugs and not hastening to upgrade an actually running store is not particularly new, either calendar-wise or version-wise. Note the authorship of this succinct whip of the same sword through what is overall the same round of thoughts in that, this, and yet other entire threads (among bugzillions, perhaps): http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 23#p258213

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Post by blancy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:12 am

Hi folks,

One of the noobies here.

I've been tasked with upgrading an opencart 1.5.3.1 store. I had a trial run locally upgrading to 1.5.5.1 and went well enough to go try the same on live site. But unfortunately (for me) scriptaculous was used to install the live shop, and it is only offering the option to upgrade to 1.5.6 now.

I noticed that 1.5.4 and 1.5.5 had a minor release 2 days later but it's been quite a bit more than 2 days since 1.5.6 went live. Can someone advise:

(a) is there going to be a 1.5.6.1?
(b) any timescales for its release if so?


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Post by butte » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:21 am

(a) Yes. (b) Nobody knows or is telling.

You would probably be best off to start again without scriptaculous, then either upgrade to 1.5.4.x and wait, or to 1.5.5.1 and supply it with what it is known to need (such as, but not limited to, a whole new current full ckeditor.com/download/ package into /admin/view/javascript/ckeditor/ tree) and then wait. You can also extract it from scriptaculous but that would probably be more tedious than you prefer.

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Post by blancy » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:11 pm

OK thanks.

Scriptaculous is the fly in the ointment. It's not my shop or hosting and I don't know enough about scriptaculous or how it fits into this hosting package to want to deviate from it (as the 1.5.3.1 shop was installed with it originally). I'll give it a couple of days to see if any release dates come out then will have to think of a new plan if not. Really wanted to upgrade to 1.5.5.1 and its annoying that scriptaculous does not give me the option of what version to upgrade to.

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Post by butte » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:15 pm

For the time being the main question will be whether the shop itself actually works correctly. There's no compelling reason to upgrade if it works well for what it is meant to do. Note the second comment at http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 23#p258213 .

You might try putting the upgrade you did into place on the server in its very own directory. You could show that it works without scriptaculous. You might additionally try setting up a mirror copy of the live site in its own very own directory, then overwriting the OC tree with the successful off-line upgrade that you did, then seeing whether scriptaculous has been outmaneuvered. You could show that you outmaneuvered scriptaculous. Both would put you in a bettered position to suggest to the client that scriptaculous be canned; by you.

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Post by vitalyk » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:03 am

So back to original question:
Is there a fix for SQL syntax error?

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Post by rph » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:42 am

ft_namerel isn't part of OpenCart so you'll have to talk to whoever developed the mod that uses it.

At this point 1.5.6 is in such a sorry state I'll probably write the whole thing off and only offer paid support. I know I'm not the only developer unhappy with it, either.

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:07 am

rph wrote:ft_namerel isn't part of OpenCart so you'll have to talk to whoever developed the mod that uses it.

At this point 1.5.6 is in such a sorry state I'll probably write the whole thing off and only offer paid support. I know I'm not the only developer unhappy with it, either.
Part of me wants to just write a script to remove all the openbay stuff and apply the handful of fixes and require that anyone using mods or requesting support from me run that first. But I'm sure as soon as I finish the script, 1.5.6.1 will be released rendering it mostly useless.

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Post by butte » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:55 am

Qphoria, in light of http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 40#p426371 writing it might bring to mind lighting a cigarette to make the bus come. It works, of course. He's obviously giving it a rest before taking a fresh look at it -- same holds for writing anything serious, code, prose, poetry, whatever, spend some time off it, then edit anew. Tolstoy and Shakespeare were not written in a day, neither was OC (or even Windows); nor edited in a day.

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Post by butte » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:34 pm

(1) Second; subject, of course, to Qphoria's own operational imperatives.

(2) Out of curiosity and practicality, since all things considered we seem to be looking at a short "branch" in the usual sense, why not look forward to it as stepwise, CE- or -CE but 1.5.5.2, with room to go for fiddling with it without piling too much into a still 1.5.5.1 that would confuse even developers without looking carefully at download timestamps or "nightly build" numbers? I should think that if the approach is viable then it would also contemplate post 1.5.5. as well, since we will have seen .6 and beyond before we see 2, and a "CE" would presumably not be entirely mired somewhere in its own past. The main flow has already jumped to 1.5.6. and 1.5.6.1 will be available when he's good and ready. We essentially have core sun and developer umbra following it, respectively letting there be light and reviving what may have wilted in it. As it were.

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Post by blancy » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:36 pm

butte wrote:For the time being the main question will be whether the shop itself actually works correctly. There's no compelling reason to upgrade if it works well for what it is meant to do. Note the second comment at http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php ... 23#p258213 .

You might try putting the upgrade you did into place on the server in its very own directory. You could show that it works without scriptaculous. You might additionally try setting up a mirror copy of the live site in its own very own directory, then overwriting the OC tree with the successful off-line upgrade that you did, then seeing whether scriptaculous has been outmaneuvered. You could show that you outmaneuvered scriptaculous. Both would put you in a bettered position to suggest to the client that scriptaculous be canned; by you.

Thanks Butte,

The shop owner wants to use some VQmods that are not compatible with 1.5.3.1 hence the move to 1.5.5.1. I've had a chat with the hosting company about bypassing scriptaculous and doing manual installs and they say that is ok. As export / import vqmod fails when I do an upgrade yet works on a fresh install I'm actually replicating the existing store onto a fresh 1.5.5.1 install locally, which is actually becoming a nice steady intro to Opencart :) Then once perfected and approved I should just be able to drop it onto his hosting (hopefully!)

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Post by ggodoi » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:08 pm

During checkout is presenting the error "Notice: Undefined index: recurring in / catalog / view / theme / default / template / checkout / confirm.tpl on line 15" and next to the product ordered "Notice: Undefined index: recurring in / catalog / view / theme / default / template / checkout / confirm.tpl on line 29 "I am using OC 1.5.6.
Someone get me ajuar, requests are not being generated due to error.
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<?php if($product['recurring']): ?>
        <tr>
            <td colspan="6" style="border:none;"><image src="catalog/view/theme/default/image/reorder.png" alt="" title="" style="float:left;" /><span style="float:left;line-height:18px; margin-left:10px;"> 
                <strong><?php echo $text_recurring_item ?></strong>
                <?php echo $product['profile_description'] ?>
            </td>
        </tr>
      <?php endif; ?>
      <tr>
        <td class="name"><a href="<?php echo $product['href']; ?>"><?php echo $product['name']; ?></a>
          <?php foreach ($product['option'] as $option) { ?>
          <br />
          &nbsp;<small> - <?php echo $option['name']; ?>: <?php echo $option['value']; ?></small>
          <?php } ?>
          <?php if($product['recurring']): ?>

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Post by butte » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:48 pm

That'll work best, blancy. OC does not need any external help or to be married to a ball and chain.

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