Post by Johnathan » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:06 am

OpenCart 4.1.0.0 was released today (January 13, 2025). Here is the direct download link:

https://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=cms/download

Here is a list of changes on github:

https://github.com/opencart/opencart/re ... ag/4.1.0.0

Any bugs you encounter can be reported in the OpenCart 4.0 Bug Forum, or on github.

Please remember that it is NOT advised to upgrade live stores to a new version right away! Please allow a few weeks for bugfixing.

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Post by abarn » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:14 am

so far a test upgrade worked ok, just some theme and menu extensions i need to fix.

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Post by Johnathan » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:21 pm

I'm curious to know: did you use the built-in Upgrade function? There were problems with that in the past but those were hopefully fixed in 4.1.0.0. I haven't had time to test it myself though.

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Post by abarn » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:26 am

no, i used the /installer page. Initially I did try the built-in one but it hung about 20% through.

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Post by Johnathan » Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:52 pm

Thanks for the input. It sounds like the Upgrade function still has the same problem as before (or a new one).

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Post by Bajlolo » Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:10 am

Hey guys, I am new to OpenCart world. I used to be developer in my previous life, but am already out for some years.
I need an easy and decent opensource eshop which I will be extending for my client's need.
Question, is version 4.1 the best choice for long-term use, lasting at least five years before requiring an update due to technological advancements?
Is it stable, fast, and free of bugs?

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Post by Johnathan » Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:08 pm

OpenCart 4.1.0.0 is too new for developers to know if it's bug-free or stable. I've already found a few minor bugs myself, so there are likely others lurking in there. If you know PHP and HTML, and are willing to fix bugs yourself, then it would be fine to use.

However, if you want to start a new store and have a more stable and bug-free version, use 3.0.4.0. It's available here:

https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... ad/history

That is the version recommended for new stores by almost all OpenCart developers, and there are more extensions for it since it's an older version as well. You shouldn't need to update for at least 5 years, or longer.

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Post by Elevate » Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:19 am

Johnathan wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:08 pm
OpenCart 4.1.0.0 is too new for developers to know if it's bug-free or stable. I've already found a few minor bugs myself, so there are likely others lurking in there. If you know PHP and HTML, and are willing to fix bugs yourself, then it would be fine to use.

However, if you want to start a new store and have a more stable and bug-free version, use 3.0.4.0. It's available here:

https://www.opencart.com/index.php?rout ... ad/history

That is the version recommended for new stores by almost all OpenCart developers, and there are more extensions for it since it's an older version as well. You shouldn't need to update for at least 5 years, or longer.
I think every new version is going to have some sort of bugs. 4.0.0.0 was released almost 3 years ago. Is the Version 4 just no good at all? I don't see any of the regulars recommending it. It's always 'use the most up to date of the Version 3 branch'.

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Post by Johnathan » Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:19 pm

The initial 4.0.0.0 version was very buggy, so developers held off recommending it until the bugs were fixed. Many of them were in the intermediate releases, but even in 4.0.2.3 there were still some bugs that would affect normal usage. That version was released in September 2023, so the bugs stuck around for 1 year and 4 months until 4.1.0.0 was released. During that entire period, developers were recommending that people use the stable 3.0 branch for new stores because it was less buggy, more stable, had PHP 8 support, and had many more extensions for it.

4.0.2.3 was certainly usable if you were willing to fix some bugs yourself. However, for new users the 3.0 branch was just a better choice because they wouldn't have to deal with fixing things or searching for extensions. That's why we all recommended it.

I don't have an assessment of 4.1.0.0 yet because I haven't used it much, but I will say that so far it seems pretty good. I've run into a few bugs, though, which is why I always recommend new users don't try out the latest version. Wait until at least 4.1.0.1 and 4.1.0.2 and we should (hopefully) have a new OpenCart version to recommend.

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