I was thinking of redesigning the admin for OpenCart. Currently It is very restrictive of where buttons can be placed. If I wanted to add an XML export button on some of the pages there is not nowhere really for them to go.
Last edited by Daniel on Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Sorry to be interfering, but please don't change too much on the interface. I really like it, it is nice and simple. Besides, I think there may be some other things that still need to be done such as automatic SEF url's for products 
Have you seen Magenta yet? Looks flashy but for my purposes it is way to complex. I think Opencart is great and I hope some good enthusiastic developers will join you soon to make this the best all shopping cart available!
Have you seen Magenta yet? Looks flashy but for my purposes it is way to complex. I think Opencart is great and I hope some good enthusiastic developers will join you soon to make this the best all shopping cart available!
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I think the admin could use an overhaul.
E.g. when you add a product it would be nice to have an img upload right there. You still could leave the option list for those who wanna choose from the images already uploaded.
Also, the admin isn't intuitive sometimes. To do stuff you must go up and down. The 'save' button should always be at the bottom.
Generally, WordPress has the best admin I've seen yet. There's no flyout/popup menu used but a second line under the tab with all the available options for the section.
In Opencart it would be better to make the selected section sticky with a tab (I mean admin, catalog, extensions etc) and then display a second line under it so it looks like the example below. This would be much quicker to catch and removes one step in the navigation metaphor: moving the mouse over the menu, wait for the popup, then select the option).
edit: this could be done with the different style of the tab menu so it's even quicker.
E.g. when you add a product it would be nice to have an img upload right there. You still could leave the option list for those who wanna choose from the images already uploaded.
Also, the admin isn't intuitive sometimes. To do stuff you must go up and down. The 'save' button should always be at the bottom.
Generally, WordPress has the best admin I've seen yet. There's no flyout/popup menu used but a second line under the tab with all the available options for the section.
In Opencart it would be better to make the selected section sticky with a tab (I mean admin, catalog, extensions etc) and then display a second line under it so it looks like the example below. This would be much quicker to catch and removes one step in the navigation metaphor: moving the mouse over the menu, wait for the popup, then select the option).
edit: this could be done with the different style of the tab menu so it's even quicker.
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Admin | Catalog | Extensions Customers Reports
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Category Product Option Manufacturer Image Download Review Information
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Last edited by nde on Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
hey if you are thinking of touching the admin section, what would it take to be able to upload photos from the add product section? This tool is great but from a user experience point of view it's a little awkward to have to go upload photo and then go add product in a different section.
it seems to me, who has very little understanding of this tool, that it shouldn't be too bad to create another tab for images and possibly then have a checkbox to select default image. you'd need the checkbox since the tool offers multiple photos for one product.
just a thought
it seems to me, who has very little understanding of this tool, that it shouldn't be too bad to create another tab for images and possibly then have a checkbox to select default image. you'd need the checkbox since the tool offers multiple photos for one product.
just a thought
I'm going to add this feature aswell!OneBadFlower wrote: hey if you are thinking of touching the admin section, what would it take to be able to upload photos from the add product section? This tool is great but from a user experience point of view it's a little awkward to have to go upload photo and then go add product in a different section.
it seems to me, who has very little understanding of this tool, that it shouldn't be too bad to create another tab for images and possibly then have a checkbox to select default image. you'd need the checkbox since the tool offers multiple photos for one product.
just a thought
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One minor tweak. When you insert products, can you make the "Insert" button disabled?
Often I press it again instead "Save", and the entered info goes down the drain.
A thumbnail preview for the images will be handy when selecting an image for product. Just a scrolling div with overflow: hidden, and with all the thumbnails inside.
Often I press it again instead "Save", and the entered info goes down the drain.
A thumbnail preview for the images will be handy when selecting an image for product. Just a scrolling div with overflow: hidden, and with all the thumbnails inside.
Deletes going to checkboxes and then one main delete button that asks to confirm and is only visable on the list page.d77 wrote: another minor tweak. which is actually going to be quite major for me once i hand off product administration to a user.
need a delete confirmation dialog box on anything that can be deleted from a list.
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nde wrote: I think the admin could use an overhaul.
E.g. when you add a product it would be nice to have an img upload right there. You still could leave the option list for those who wanna choose from the images already uploaded.
Also, the admin isn't intuitive sometimes. To do stuff you must go up and down. The 'save' button should always be at the bottom.
Generally, WordPress has the best admin I've seen yet. There's no flyout/popup menu used but a second line under the tab with all the available options for the section.
In Opencart it would be better to make the selected section sticky with a tab (I mean admin, catalog, extensions etc) and then display a second line under it so it looks like the example below. This would be much quicker to catch and removes one step in the navigation metaphor: moving the mouse over the menu, wait for the popup, then select the option).
edit: this could be done with the different style of the tab menu so it's even quicker.
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_________ Admin | Catalog | Extensions Customers Reports ---------- ------------------------------------------------------------ Category Product Option Manufacturer Image Download Review Information --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not convinced your idea is the best way to go. There maybe more than one sub category. I just can't see how to fit it all on to two lines.
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But currently the only menu with more than one sub-category are 'Users' and 'Localisation' under 'Admin > Configuration'.
My idea is just to make all subcategories always visible in the second line so they are quicker to catch. This makes it easier to use. I think you don't need the 6 big icons on the top as well (List, Insert, Update etc. wherer everyone says they look like Joomla), since most of the edit options are in the row on the right.
Also, since there are lots of things to edit under 'Localisation' you could make it an extra menu. Leaving the technical Settings, URL Alias etc to the admin and separate the Localisation since it has more to do with the content. I photoshopped my idea.
My idea is just to make all subcategories always visible in the second line so they are quicker to catch. This makes it easier to use. I think you don't need the 6 big icons on the top as well (List, Insert, Update etc. wherer everyone says they look like Joomla), since most of the edit options are in the row on the right.
Also, since there are lots of things to edit under 'Localisation' you could make it an extra menu. Leaving the technical Settings, URL Alias etc to the admin and separate the Localisation since it has more to do with the content. I photoshopped my idea.
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???unrelated to the admin design, i hit this when laying out a draft of the admin documentation. ended up pulling "users" and "localization" out into their own area just to keep the document structure in tact 
fyi, i am not going to go too far with this part of it with a new design coming
fyi, i am not going to go too far with this part of it with a new design coming
Intreasting new template design. I have been doing a bit more redeisgning myself and getting really close for a 1st class new admin system. Forget the mockup i did before this ones even better.nde wrote: But currently the only menu with more than one sub-category are 'Users' and 'Localisation' under 'Admin > Configuration'.
My idea is just to make all subcategories always visible in the second line so they are quicker to catch. This makes it easier to use. I think you don't need the 6 big icons on the top as well (List, Insert, Update etc. wherer everyone says they look like Joomla), since most of the edit options are in the row on the right.
Also, since there are lots of things to edit under 'Localisation' you could make it an extra menu. Leaving the technical Settings, URL Alias etc to the admin and separate the Localisation since it has more to do with the content. I photoshopped my idea.
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Most parts of the admin is really good, like the welcome page with statistics and orders etc. That's all well designed.
It's just that some parts could need more usability. Like some tables: I think that some could use an extra row to show the current setting. E.g. under 'Extensions' it would be useful to show if the modules, shipping etc. are disabled / enabled.
I have some ideas written down when I played with the cart and did a setup, about 15 things. I make sure to post them under 1.0 feature request thread soon. They're mostly about usability issues though. Small things like the checkout button, you use the onclick javascript. But of course it would be better if the whole thing works without javascript.
It's just that some parts could need more usability. Like some tables: I think that some could use an extra row to show the current setting. E.g. under 'Extensions' it would be useful to show if the modules, shipping etc. are disabled / enabled.
I have some ideas written down when I played with the cart and did a setup, about 15 things. I make sure to post them under 1.0 feature request thread soon. They're mostly about usability issues though. Small things like the checkout button, you use the onclick javascript. But of course it would be better if the whole thing works without javascript.
a bit offtopic, but a big step in terms of usability/accessibility of the catalog would be XHTML compliance. i started another thread on this awhile back but didn't hear any feedback. i have alot of experience with XHTML if you ever decide to make the catalog XHTML compliant.
I have decided to implement the sub categories the way you suggested. I should be able to release to mockup of the new design tonight and there is a remote chance I can he coded this weekend.nde wrote: But currently the only menu with more than one sub-category are 'Users' and 'Localisation' under 'Admin > Configuration'.
My idea is just to make all subcategories always visible in the second line so they are quicker to catch. This makes it easier to use. I think you don't need the 6 big icons on the top as well (List, Insert, Update etc. wherer everyone says they look like Joomla), since most of the edit options are in the row on the right.
Also, since there are lots of things to edit under 'Localisation' you could make it an extra menu. Leaving the technical Settings, URL Alias etc to the admin and separate the Localisation since it has more to do with the content. I photoshopped my idea.
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I will do it XHTML compliant thbe only problem is the URLS using ' & ' &s;. It means I need to change all URLs to using '/'.d77 wrote: a bit offtopic, but a big step in terms of usability/accessibility of the catalog would be XHTML compliance. i started another thread on this awhile back but didn't hear any feedback. i have alot of experience with XHTML if you ever decide to make the catalog XHTML compliant.
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