Post by pbenfield » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:49 pm

Guardian is right it would only be the IP address that is noted.

IP addresses are not tied to any personal data.

There is a lot of confusion what is personal data storage. If you store personal data on a computer you have to register with the UK government that you are storing data with names and addresses or how to get paid and deliver goods.

If you have a customer list that is personal data and has nothing to do with a cookie

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Post by mberlant » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:08 pm

I did not mean to get you upset, Guardian. I never observed any version of OC storing such information in a cookie, nor did I foresee any time that OC might begin to do so in the future.

I was taking exception to pbenfield's excerpt from his terms of service that says that his store wants permission from a prospective customer to store customer details in a cookie. I quoted this passage from his posting when I made my comment. Perhaps the engine that runs his store behaves in such a manner, or perhaps he is simply ignorant of how his store operates.

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Post by pbenfield » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:13 am

mberlant once again you are miss quoting the facts and I resent such sarcastic remarks as the details of the statemant are from top lawyers in their profession.

You should read the privacy statement in the above posting before making such remarks

Here is further information we give to people are aware of the cituatiohn with cookies:

.......Cookies are used on some of our Websites. Cookies are small text files that a website places on your hard drive whenever you visit the Website. These files identify your computer and record your preferences and other Technical Information about your visit so that when you return to the Website, it knows who you are and can personalize your visit. Cookies may be linked to Personal Information about you. Specifically, we use cookies to keep track of your shopping cart and wish lists and to prevent you from having to reenter your registration data (such as user name and password) at each connection. In addition, we may use information collected by cookies, as well as other tools such as log files , for other purposes, such as helping us determine how to improve our Websites by seeing which areas, features, and products are most popular; personalizing the Website and making recommendations based on products you have linked to in the past; and completing transactions you have requested. Most browsers are automatically set to accept cookies. If you disable this function, some areas of our Websites will not function properly.........

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Post by mberlant » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:05 am

I don't wish to perpetuate a flame war, but the fact remains that I excerpted your quote in context. I did not put those words I quoted into your original post. The words you posted just now are not at all the same as the ones you posted then. Had you posted these words at that time, I would not have taken exception to them. How can I possibly misquote you by copying your words without changing them?

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Post by Moggin » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:26 am

Today's news: ICO’s Google Analytics data flatlines after it implements ‘cookie opt-in’ policy:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology ... l-economy/

Last Century Man, aka the UK’s Information Commissioner, argues: “lots of websites use popups – why are they such a bad idea for cookies?”

.... :crazy:

..just for interest

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Post by iSupply3D » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:17 pm

Seeing as the EU cookie law is hitting the news at the moment...

Can anyone confirm exactly what cookies may be used in OpenCart 1.5, what data is stored, when do they expire ? etc..
I'd really like to be able to show customers (in the T&C's) the exact details of what is stored when they:
a) Browse the shop anonymously
b) Browse and buy from the shop while logged in

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Post by Moggin » Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:29 pm

not sure, but you could test it out by looking at your own cookies.

In Chrome, go to spanner > settings > under the hood > content settings > all cookies and site data.

For something in the basket, it sets 3 cookies: a session cookie, and one for language and currency. The first one expires when the browser closes, the second 2, one month hence. Haven't tried out the 'logged-in' scenario, nor the 'just browsing' one.

For interest (well not interesting at all, but there it is) - the UK ICC (chamber of commerce) have released their cookie guide.

http://www.international-chamber.co.uk/ ... _guide.pdf

Opencart cookies don't come under the legislation as far as I can tell from this. This guide calls them 'category 1' - so you don't need to ask explicit permission for them. Cookies for Google analytics qualify for a notice in the terms and conditions.

But anyone concerned should read up on it themselves, I think.

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Post by iSupply3D » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:15 pm

Thanks very much for the info.
It's a relief to know you don't have to ask for permission explicitly - still worth putting some cookie info in the shop's privacy policy though.
btw, I did have a look at my IE cookies and as far as I could tell it was only storing Language and Currency settings. Haven't looked at it during checkout yet.

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Post by DigitariaGlobal » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:00 pm

To the person who asked the question initially.

Consult a Lawyer who specialise in IT - e-Commerce. That is the best and safest way to advise you client. Further more it makes you look professional and responsible. Too many guessing in these answers not enough solid law answers.


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Post by the-_-duke » Fri May 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Although Opencart is fine, Google Analytics does breach this law, so if you use Google Analytics on your opencart site in the EU as of tomorrow - 26th May 2012 you will be in breach of the new EU Cookie Directive, and must get the users permission to put the google cookies on their computer.

To solve this we have developed an extension so you can easily comply with the law:
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... on_id=6582

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Post by robster » Mon May 28, 2012 9:20 pm


I know my place...!


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Post by Klimskady » Tue May 29, 2012 1:05 am

robster wrote:I googled and found this script:

http://codecanyon.net/item/eu-cookie-law-script/2289206

And used it here:

http://www.homeprintstudio.com

Rob
A free alternative of the above is

http://www.daretothink.co.uk/blog/snipp ... aw-script/

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Post by robster » Tue May 29, 2012 1:12 am

Even better... but not as pretty.

Rob

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Post by rfe » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:14 pm

Please can you advise which file to edit in opencart and insert above free script without affecting website operation?

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Post by Moggin » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:32 pm

Another free script for anyone interested:

http://silktide.com/cookieconsent

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Post by olimax » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:20 pm


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Post by spitos » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:03 pm

The EU cookie law only applies to data tracked by Google Analytics when using opencart.
To me it seems completely unnecessary but best to have it just in case.

I've included a cookie consent script in my Google Analytics Expert extension which you can find here:
http://www.opencart.com/index.php?route ... on_id=4496

It tracks all of the Google Analytics data you will need into an easy to install package that covers all of this:
  • Full E-Commerce tracking (Model/SKU, Product Name, Quantity, Product Price, Product Category, Shipping Costs & Taxes, including Product Options)
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  • Event Tracking (add to cart, wishlist, compare)
  • Search Tracking (see all search terms and all data related to search over specific periods)
  • Google Adwords integration
  • Multi-Store compatibility (individual tracking for each store you have setup)
  • EU Cookie Law compliance (optional install for EU users who wish to use it)
  • Supports multi currency/language
  • Supports the popular shoppica theme

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Post by tophat » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:17 pm

From what I've also read (forget source), there is a 1 year period to allow you to implement the cookie law and test what works the best. They Gov will also naturally tackle larger corps as a priority, as they are the ones setting the example. As it goes, I think over the next few months we'll see some better ways of dealing with this law as at the moment these pop ups are ugly and starting to ruin the web experience when every website has it.

p.s. the irony in that free script is funny as it must store a cookie of itself to remember your option you selected. ;)

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Post by olimax » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:09 pm

The solution is not the issue.
It is just addressing the problem
What form could this solution take that will appear that can fulfil the requirements then?
Ignoring it is one way and a possible answer to a dumb legislation but if someone wants to fulfil this then this is the way to go.
Server side passwords are not cookies so this is not relevant.

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Post by fireatwire » Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:54 pm

For the privacy policy I would like to write exactly about each cookie - which data it stores and for what reason.

Has someone done that already and could post it here? I'm not sure about what the session cookie saves.

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