Sneak Peek: OpenCart 1.5.0 *ALPHA*

i2Paq wrote: Speaking of PS.
In their latest RC release the now have the possibility for Guest buyers to check their order or, when they want, convert their guest-account into a full account with one click. That is because guest accounts are actually full account with a twist.

My Guest Checkout mod back in 1.3.2 was the same.. Full account "with a twist". I agree tho... guest account should be able to view their invoices based on email address and order number like deal extreme does

once 1.5.0 is released i'm going back to to doing weekly releases. that should speed things up.

That sounds great! Keep your great work! Are you planning to launch many RC versions?

Also sdon;t forget 1.5.0 has loads of features PS does not have. Its actually at the level of magento but a lot easier for people to understand the code.

Are you thinking of some special features that OC 1.5..x will get that PS does not have?

i2Paq wrote:

Daniel wrote:Also sdon;t forget 1.5.0 has loads of features PS does not have. Its actually at the level of magento but a lot easier for people to understand the code.

Speaking of PS.
In their latest RC release the now have the possibility for Guest buyers to check their order or, when they want, convert their guest-account into a full account with one click. That is because guest accounts are actually full account with a twist.

please don;t say that. i had a client asking about this before and i was thinking what a stupied impractical thing to do.

is it really killing people that on their second order they fill in there details again and this time create an account.

this sort of thing really leaves people open to having their accounts or orders hijacked.

QNAP wrote:

once 1.5.0 is released i'm going back to to doing weekly releases. that should speed things up.

That sounds great! Keep your great work! Are you planning to launch many RC versions?

actually that sounds like a horrible idea. Please don't go back to weekly releases. Trying to keep track of all the different versions becomes a nightmare. I think after 1.5.0 I think the releases should become feature based. Figure out what features are going to be added to the next version. Put them on the roadmap and be diligent about updating their status and when all the features are done release that version. The only releases that you should be worried about putting out fast are bug fix releases. Having new releases every week makes it virtually impossible to use opencart commercially. Customers will be asking why am I not on the latest version. Well you were last week when we started the project, but a new version just got released. I see no real need for a new feature release any more than every three to four months.

Xsecrets wrote:

once 1.5.0 is released i'm going back to to doing weekly releases. that should speed things up

actually that sounds like a horrible idea. Please don't go back to weekly releases. Trying to keep track of all the different versions becomes a nightmare. I think after 1.5.0 I think the releases should become feature based. Figure out what features are going to be added to the next version. Put them on the roadmap and be diligent about updating their status and when all the features are done release that version. The only releases that you should be worried about putting out fast are bug fix releases. Having new releases every week makes it virtually impossible to use opencart commercially. Customers will be asking why am I not on the latest version. Well you were last week when we started the project, but a new version just got released. I see no real need for a new feature release any more than every three to four months.

+1

Johnathan wrote: +1

+1

actually that sounds like a horrible idea. Please don't go back to weekly releases. Trying to keep track of all the different versions becomes a nightmare. I think after 1.5.0 I think the releases should become feature based. Figure out what features are going to be added to the next version. Put them on the roadmap and be diligent about updating their status and when all the features are done release that version. The only releases that you should be worried about putting out fast are bug fix releases. Having new releases every week makes it virtually impossible to use opencart commercially. Customers will be asking why am I not on the latest version. Well you were last week when we started the project, but a new version just got released. I see no real need for a new feature release any more than every three to four months.

+1

Xsecrets wrote:

QNAP wrote:

once 1.5.0 is released i'm going back to to doing weekly releases. that should speed things up.

That sounds great! Keep your great work! Are you planning to launch many RC versions?

actually that sounds like a horrible idea. Please don't go back to weekly releases. Trying to keep track of all the different versions becomes a nightmare. I think after 1.5.0 I think the releases should become feature based. Figure out what features are going to be added to the next version. Put them on the roadmap and be diligent about updating their status and when all the features are done release that version. The only releases that you should be worried about putting out fast are bug fix releases. Having new releases every week makes it virtually impossible to use opencart commercially. Customers will be asking why am I not on the latest version. Well you were last week when we started the project, but a new version just got released. I see no real need for a new feature release any more than every three to four months.

+1

Lets stay on the path Qphoria went

A public release (1.5.0) so everyone can test and report bugs.
Then a stable release (1.5.1) + bug report topic.
1.5.2 can be a release with new features + bug fixes for 1.5.1 and so on.

Otherwise you can never build your store as there is no stable release to build on!

I agree with the +1 people.. weekly releases are great for something like firefox where it automatically checks and updates itself with no issues. OpenCart is not quite there. Upgrades are usually catastrophic at this point. Weeklies may be ok at first to fix any major bugs. But then monthlies and tri-monthlies would probably be ideal. 2-4 releases a year would probably be good until we can get some sort of proper upgrade method (which means us developers need to stick to proper guidelines ... i.e. no removing core classes between 1.5.3 and 1.5.4, etc)

ok monthly then.

Qphoria wrote:I agree with the +1 people.. weekly releases are great for something like firefox where it automatically checks and updates itself with no issues. OpenCart is not quite there. Upgrades are usually catastrophic at this point. Weeklies may be ok at first to fix any major bugs. But then monthlies and tri-monthlies would probably be ideal. 2-4 releases a year would probably be good until we can get some sort of proper upgrade method (which means us developers need to stick to proper guidelines ... i.e. no removing core classes between 1.5.3 and 1.5.4, etc)

if updates could be run from within the system and there'd be guidelines on developing extensions (which functions to use, which will become deprecated etc) there'd be not much problems I guess. Sure some stuff will break, but that happens with every open source cms out there that gets updated.

I agree, (daniel/q/others, folks i am one of the many silent who reguarly read the updates to 1.5. this is bit of farce, i have waited and waited and i know once released and bugs fixed and mods alter etc is going to take months before i have a 1.5 site up and running. really keen to have something stable to work on soon, not going to go down the road of what should be in it or not leave that to the core developers and others to determine.

1 suggestion for the next version or a mod or something. Not sure how many of you have heard of Mobicart http://www.mobi-cart.com/index.html, this is also free to use, based/started out in Newcastle UK very close to where Daniel was based, but anyway this is tool to create your own App for the iphone and ipad or Android, A MUST for all committed online traders, given the huge rise and use of smart phones. Great exposure so far for mobicart, loads of good press, check it, would love to read other opinions(another thread maybe since this is really 1.5!)

Would love to see Mobi-Cart and Opencart work together in some way, formal/informal, mods, anything really, both of these are fantastic, quality, pieces of kit ( even if a bit frustrating at times..!) used together a potential force for a low cost e-commerce platform on both mobile & pc markets.

Folks, thanks for 1.4.9 great piece gna be better in 1.5

- feedback the features/suggestion/development/release's arena needs sharper focus, very frustrating to have spent the last 6 months just waiting for a test beta of 1.5.0

Thank you
,

There is a thread already for mobi ...
http://forum.opencart.com/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=15635

QNAP wrote:

why do people keep coming up with feature requests. this is not the thread. after 1.5.0 comes out then i'm going to start with stuff like this.

About time to take it under consideration, you can only wonder when it will be?
PS is going strong, can you really match their resources when it comes to development and new releases?

I for one don't really care for PS. I downloaded it and tried it out on my testing site and was just baffled by it. The back end is super confusing, the extensions are hella expensive, and for me the front end seemed slower than OC.

I think the only thing PS has on OC is that they do have a bit more developers and it seems like they are structured more like a business, but that's pretty much it in my opinion. OC feels faster, cleaner, and easier for me to use.

Oh yeah, and +1 for having quarterly OC feature releases and intermittent bug fixes in between.

I think the only thing PS has on OC is that they do have a bit more developers and it seems like they are structured more like a business, but that's pretty much it in my opinion. OC feels faster, cleaner, and easier for me to use.

I agree with you. The back end in PS really needs to improve!
I hope that the developers of OC really get things moving......

From what I've picked up in the past few months while playing a lot with the back end code, Opencart already has the meat and potatoes. Salad, could use some tomatoes and the desert is still coming. So, what do the developers need to get moving on? A few additions to be feature par? A few extensions to match a few more features?

As is, opencart is a very able cart. If anything, if you can code or are willing to pay for specialty features, you can't go wrong.

It would be great to include a multimedia manager more less like the one included in Wordpress, using Uploadify and some good CSS skills i think it would be a massive plus for the project.

Anyway, the best shopping cart available, thanks!

Hi,

I know this has probably been asked a thousand times but I have not an answer on any of the 1.5.0 threads. Does anyone have an ETA for a beta release and/or RC Version? I need to start designing my website and there are features in 1.5.0 that I cannot live without that 1.4.9 doesn't have.

Any news what so ever would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

its going to be this month.

nearly everthing is done now. I have some one else working on a new design. Only the order system is left. everything I have done so far including customer credit, manual orders, reward points etc.. tie into the order system.

Daniel wrote:its going to be this month.

nearly everthing is done now. I have some one else working on a new design. Only the order system is left. everything I have done so far including customer credit, manual orders, reward points etc.. tie into the order system.

+1
Thank Daniel and opencart team for hardworks.