Post by Daniel » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:51 pm

I have asked Q to release a unfinished 1.5.0 tomorrow or the day after. There are a few things left to do and this release should not be used on a production site. It might just be released on the SVN first. I want people to be able to see the features that have been added.

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Post by Johnathan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:49 pm

If it's not finished, it would be helpful to make sure it's released with a version like 1.5.0rc1 so people don't get confused. Even if you explicitly state that it's not ready for production environments, if the version says 1.5.0 I'm sure you would get lots of people using it thinking, "But it's 1.5.0, why isn't it working!?"

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Post by Xsecrets » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:29 pm

Johnathan wrote:If it's not finished, it would be helpful to make sure it's released with a version like 1.5.0rc1 so people don't get confused. Even if you explicitly state that it's not ready for production environments, if the version says 1.5.0 I'm sure you would get lots of people using it thinking, "But it's 1.5.0, why isn't it working!?"
I would say release it as a technology preview or something, as it's clearly not at the release candidate stage yet. I think that as Daniel mentioned a strictly SVN only release would be best as those of us who actually know how to pull something out of SVN are going to realize it's not production ready.

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Post by Daniel » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:37 pm

I think if its put on SVN it should be ok.

The only things missing are:

add to cart not working
add to compare not working
add to wishlist not working
css needs finishing
manual order from admin not working
option types needs finishing. (works in the admin already)

These things can be finished in a few days and svn can be updated when each one is finished.

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Post by TAC » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:42 pm

Fylde is sort of a shire. Many are drawn to it and then leave but get drawn back, only to leave again....

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:21 am

Johnathan wrote:If it's not finished, it would be helpful to make sure it's released with a version like 1.5.0rc1 so people don't get confused.
Really? Am I new?
Now out of spite I'm going to release is as "1.5.0_FINAL-PERFECT-VERSION-OF-OPENCART-WITH-NO-BUGS-SO-UPGRADE-YOUR-STORE-NOW!!1!1!.zip"

That shouldn't confuse anyone :crazy:

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Post by OC2PS » Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:51 am

Qphoria wrote:I'm going to release is as "1.5.0_FINAL-PERFECT-VERSION-OF-OPENCART-WITH-NO-BUGS-SO-UPGRADE-YOUR-STORE-NOW!!1!1!.zip"
In Dec 2011 ;)

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Post by SapporoGuy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:33 am

@ Daniel
I guess this means your flight?
If so, safe journey for you and your family!
Also, hope you get watch a few movies ;D

@ release
Awesome .... now people are going to start on ... it's broken, how do I fix my shop :crazy:

@ forum update to reflect 1.5
Why don't you just make a forum for 1.5.rc1 support help ... then we can all just ignore that forum :laugh:

@ svn
Is this possibly a step towards community driven patches and or code suggestions?

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:49 am

Nope.. this is a release to shut people up that were promised "Something" on the 15th.... we said we'd have 1.5.0 on the 15th.. we never said it would work and it wont!. It is very much alpha still

- no add to cart working
- new options only configurable in admin but not shown on front yet
- module system testable but only for left/right positions still, most other positions haven't been coded yet
- Gift vouchers not working

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- new theme
- some new engine functions and restructuring
- new instance-based modules
- new admin pages for attributes, options, RMA, etc

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Post by SapporoGuy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:11 am

TAC wrote:Fylde is sort of a shire. Many are drawn to it and then leave but get drawn back, only to leave again....
Sounds like my hometown ;)
I skipped the go back part. Drawn to poke around and such, a great place to raise kids to an extent ... but ... I need serious fibre lines to even think about it. :laugh:

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Post by dbstr » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:38 pm

Will there be a "class" column in the order_total table, to help identify the various lines?

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title	    |	value |	class
-------------------------------------
Sub-Total:  |	100.00|	subtotal
Flat Rate:  |	2.00  |	shipping
VAT 25%:    |   25.50 |   tax
Total:	   |   127.50|   total
or something similar?

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Post by Xsecrets » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:32 pm

dbstr wrote:Will there be a "class" column in the order_total table, to help identify the various lines?

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title	    |	value |	class
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Sub-Total:  |	100.00|	subtotal
Flat Rate:  |	2.00  |	shipping
VAT 25%:    |   25.50 |   tax
Total:	   |   127.50|   total
or something similar?
that would certainly be helpful, but I haven't heard anyone mention it. As far as I can tell not having it is the biggest problem with creating a good order editor.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:55 pm

dbstr wrote:Will there be a "class" column in the order_total table, to help identify the various lines?

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title	    |	value |	class
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Sub-Total:  |	100.00|	subtotal
Flat Rate:  |	2.00  |	shipping
VAT 25%:    |   25.50 |   tax
Total:	   |   127.50|   total
or something similar?
That is actually a brilliant idea.. daniel did change the order edit system (not sure if its done yet) but I'm not sure how it takes this issue into effect.. but a class option would be a nice idea to maintain which is which so we'll keep that in mind for sure.

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Post by ikhlief » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:18 am

If I upgrade from 1.4.9.3 to 1.5 what will I lose?? Will I lose the porducts? Options? members? ???

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Post by Qphoria » Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:22 am

currently, product options is the only thing I can think of

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Post by d7a7z7e7d » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:18 am

and I'm planning on writing something that will help people upgrade their options from 1.4.x to 1.5.

Just waiting for a final schema to be released with 1.5 alpha.

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Post by Xsecrets » Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:51 am

ikhlief wrote:If I upgrade from 1.4.9.3 to 1.5 what will I lose?? Will I lose the porducts? Options? members? ???
probably no need to worry about that just yet as you WILL NOT want to upgrade a production store to the one that is going to get released soon, as there will still be MAJOR functions that do not work.

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Post by alex1 » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:23 am

Daniel mentioned on Monday that Q will release it "tomorrow or the day after". Today is the day after... just curious if it's going to be released.

Eager to take a look. Thanks

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:52 am

alex1 wrote:Daniel mentioned on Monday that Q will release it "tomorrow or the day after".
BWA HA HA HA HA :laugh:

Ok, now that that's out of my system.... :stick:

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Post by gocreative » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:39 pm

Unless it's specifically being released to a beta testing group, I don't see the value in having this v1.5 'pre-release'. It will no doubt be far from perfect anyway, so rather than have various people putting in their two cents (and thus slowing development down further), you might as well just finish it THEN work on user feedback getting into v1.5.1 (or v1.6).

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