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Post by Xsecrets » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:53 pm

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Daniel wrote:I have already had an anwser from Q about this but who thinks i should use ajax form methods. so form data will be posted without reloading the pages?
You might wanna take a look at this link. http://www.yabdab.com/formloom/index.php

It's the form plug in I mentioned I used with Rapid Weaver CMS, and it creates really beautiful ajax powered forms. There's even a sample form here http://www.yabdab.com/formloom-sample/,

Have a look....maybe it will give some inspiration. :)
I don't think this is what Daniel is talking about. I think he is simply talking about submitting the existing forms like contact login etc via ajax not a complete form builder.

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Post by Qphoria » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:03 pm

We dont need no shtinkin weaver!
Why would we want a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin?
jQuery does this natively and simply. Form don't even need to be edited. Just add the ajax event capture and be done

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:49 am

Qphoria wrote:We dont need no shtinkin weaver!
Why would we want a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin?
jQuery does this natively and simply. Form don't even need to be edited. Just add the ajax event capture and be done
LOL, whow, easy there tiger...put the cat claws away for a moment...

I never expected you to integrate a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin into OpenCart. That would be silly.

I was merely giving an example of how beautifully Ajax can be used to do what Daniel is talking about. I think it's a great idea to have Ajax powered forms because it looks really awesome. That's why I gave the links, because they link to an Ajax powered form so people could actually see what an Ajax powered form is. And the part about inspiration, well, I merely meant that perhaps looking at some other Ajax powered forms out there might be useful, you know, just to compare, that's all.

Forgive me if my message got lost in translation.....

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Post by Xsecrets » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:52 am

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Qphoria wrote:We dont need no shtinkin weaver!
Why would we want a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin?
jQuery does this natively and simply. Form don't even need to be edited. Just add the ajax event capture and be done
LOL, whow, easy there tiger...put the cat claws away for a moment...

I never expected you to integrate a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin into OpenCart. That would be silly.

I was merely giving an example of how beautifully Ajax can be used to do what Daniel is talking about. I think it's a great idea to have Ajax powered forms because it looks really awesome. That's why I gave the links, because they link to an Ajax powered form so people could actually see what an Ajax powered form is. And the part about inspiration, well, I merely meant that perhaps looking at some other Ajax powered forms out there might be useful, you know, just to compare, that's all.

Forgive me if my message got lost in translation.....
I still think you are confused about what Daniel is talking about he's not talking about a form builder where you can build custom forms from the admin he's simply talking about ajax form submission of the existing forms on the frontend (at least that's the way I read it).

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:00 am

Xsecrets wrote:
HTMLCSSNoob wrote:
Qphoria wrote:We dont need no shtinkin weaver!
Why would we want a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin?
jQuery does this natively and simply. Form don't even need to be edited. Just add the ajax event capture and be done
LOL, whow, easy there tiger...put the cat claws away for a moment...

I never expected you to integrate a commercial, Mac only, desktop application plugin into OpenCart. That would be silly.

I was merely giving an example of how beautifully Ajax can be used to do what Daniel is talking about. I think it's a great idea to have Ajax powered forms because it looks really awesome. That's why I gave the links, because they link to an Ajax powered form so people could actually see what an Ajax powered form is. And the part about inspiration, well, I merely meant that perhaps looking at some other Ajax powered forms out there might be useful, you know, just to compare, that's all.

Forgive me if my message got lost in translation.....
I still think you are confused about what Daniel is talking about he's not talking about a form builder where you can build custom forms from the admin he's simply talking about ajax form submission of the existing forms on the frontend (at least that's the way I read it).
Actually, I'm not confused Xsecrets. I understand completely that Daniel is not talking about a form builder.

Ok, I'm sorry if the links I provided caused some confusion. I just added them because they link to a form that uses Ajax. And if you go through and complete the sample form from those links and hit the submit button, you can see what Ajax will do. It's just an example so everyone can see what exactly Ajax can do for OpenCarts forms....

I just mentioned the inspiration part only because I thought Daniel might want some Ajax powered forms to compare with, that's all. LOL, for all I know maybe he doesn't. He's a damn genius when it comes to coding and development anyway, so maybe he doesn't even need to look at other Ajax powered forms. I'm sure he's got his own ideas...

Again, sorry if my message got lost in translation. I'll try to be clearer next time. :)

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Post by robster » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:36 am

Oh dear, trouble at t'mill.... Anyway I understood you HTMLCSSNoob.

I did go and have a play with the ajax form and it is very nice. The more swooshy ajaxy stuff the better and the more 'modern' the sites look as a result.

Take a look at http://store.opencarter.com/preview.php ... te=minimal (not my work nor am I affiliated with the author but I recognise a thing of beauty when I see it). This uses ajax a plenty and the result is cool - IMHO.

I use a custom form maker that looks incredibly like the one you kindly gave us links to (with similar ajax) by the name of MachForm.

Anyway on you go boys......

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:49 am

I didn't think my reply was "catty" :) hence the use of "shtinkin'"

I would like to see an ajax form builder tho. But if you are just explaining the visual effect of that desktop app, then that is cool.

I found the jqtools form demos to be quite cool
http://flowplayer.org/tools/demos/combi ... index.html

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Post by Qphoria » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:53 am

robster wrote: Take a look at http://store.opencarter.com/preview.php ... te=minimal (not my work nor am I affiliated with the author but I recognise a thing of beauty when I see it). This uses ajax a plenty and the result is cool - IMHO.
Hmm I don't see any http headers being transferred for that page. It appears to be all DHTML, not ajax. Meaning all that content is preloaded on the page and just hidden/shown when called. But yes dhtml is also very easy on the eyes.
PS: In the UK 'Ajax' used to be the name of toilet cleaner - make your own jokes chaps......
We have Ajax cleaner here too in the states..

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Post by robster » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:01 am

Hmm I don't see any http headers being transferred for that page. It appears to be all DHTML, not ajax. Meaning all that content is preloaded on the page and just hidden/shown when called. But yes dhtml is also very easy on the eyes.
I have no idea what you just said (although I do wish I understood all this stuff) but whatever is used it looks very nice.
I found the jqtools form demos to be quite cool
http://flowplayer.org/tools/demos/combi ... index.html
Now that does look good.

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Post by i2Paq » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:02 am

Qphoria wrote:We have Ajax cleaner here too in the states..
Same here + a socker-club called Ajax here in Amsterdam....

I do not like that minimal template, I do like his other work.

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Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:33 am

Qphoria wrote:I found the jqtools form demos to be quite cool
http://flowplayer.org/tools/demos/combi ... index.html
Oh wow, that looks really really nice. LOL, screw the links I provided, I want that one!

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Post by robster » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:37 am

LOL - ahh humour is restored!!

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Post by Xsecrets » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:25 am

Qphoria wrote: I would like to see an ajax form builder tho.
one way or the other you will. It's on my short list if Daniel doesn't decide to steal more of my thunder. ;D

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Post by i2Paq » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:17 pm

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Qphoria wrote: I would like to see an ajax form builder tho.
one way or the other you will. It's on my short list if Daniel doesn't decide to steal more of my thunder. ;D
If Daniel steals it this list will even get shorter :D

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Post by CUSTOM_UK » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:02 pm

Daniel can put whatever he likes into the new version and use whatever technology is available, as long as it doesn't create an unstable product that 'falls over'.

Just hope someone draws a line at some stage, so that you don't end up with a product as complex as Zen, or as resource hungry as Magento.

Every feature ideally needs to benefit the true end user - the shop visitor. :)

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Post by JNeuhoff » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:00 pm

Qphoria wrote:I didn't think my reply was "catty" :) hence the use of "shtinkin'"

I would like to see an ajax form builder tho. But if you are just explaining the visual effect of that desktop app, then that is cool.

I found the jqtools form demos to be quite cool
http://flowplayer.org/tools/demos/combi ... index.html

Nice one, looks like a jQuery fancybox with a built-in form and some background opacity, we did something similar using the jQuery colorbox: http://www.derrys.com/contract/online_c ... _farmhouse for adding products to a wishlist and the final submission of the wishlist for quote requests.

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Post by robster » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:22 pm

Nice one, looks like a jQuery fancybox with a built-in form and some background opacity, we did something similar using the jQuery colorbox: http://www.derrys.com/contract/online_c ... _farmhouse for adding products to a wishlist and the final submission of the wishlist for quote requests.
That looks good J.

Could this be adapted to make a nice pop-up 'add to cart' display a la cs-cart? That would be good. Something else for 1.5.0 maybe?

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Post by Xsecrets » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:28 pm

robster wrote:
Nice one, looks like a jQuery fancybox with a built-in form and some background opacity, we did something similar using the jQuery colorbox: http://www.derrys.com/contract/online_c ... _farmhouse for adding products to a wishlist and the final submission of the wishlist for quote requests.
That looks good J.

Could this be adapted to make a nice pop-up 'add to cart' display a la cs-cart? That would be good. Something else for 1.5.0 maybe?

robster
what's wrong with the current "add to cart" system? I personally think opencart has one of the better ones out there.

and yes jquery-tools are very nice, and makes all the stuff that it does very easy to implement.

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Post by JNeuhoff » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:41 pm

robster wrote: Could this be adapted to make a nice pop-up 'add to cart' display a la cs-cart? That would be good. Something else for 1.5.0 maybe?

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I guess an alternative Opencart checkout using these jQuery colorbox forms could be made available as an optional extension.

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