Post by daydreamer » Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:33 pm

Sorry to butt in but has anyone seen this
guess its based on open cart but they have completely restructured it, download and take a look.
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Post by Johnathan » Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:36 pm

daydreamer wrote:Sorry to butt in but has anyone seen this
guess its based on open cart but they have completely restructured it, download and take a look.
Yeah, I like how they say, "AbanteCart is not a copy or fork of any other project." ::) I'd never trust someone who's not honest about their origins.
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Post by Qphoria » Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:20 am

I will say... It does have some nice new features

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Post by JNeuhoff » Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:45 am

Qphoria wrote:I will say... It does have some nice new features
It has an extensions feature which is whole files based, probably same philosophy as Kohana.

However, it also supports hooks which in the long run could reduce the need for VQmod.

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Post by marvmen21 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:30 am

Agreed with Q, it has some nice features. This is the answer I got when I asked him about why they say it's not based on opencart.
Hello Marvin,


We did not copied Opencart, although we stated on our site, that our MVC code base is made similar to opencart to make opencart developers be familiar with our system right away. This is intentional to allow quicker migration of extensions and data.


If you look at AbanteCart core code, you will notice that it is totally different in architecture and concepts.


Our project was in design and development for 2 years and we have developed core concepts that are totally different from opencart or any other cart in fact.


Please check code and concepts closely and please do not make quick assumptions.


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Post by daydreamer » Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:53 am

Not copied opencart ??? they have taken open cart and rebranded it with a horrible looking admin although there are some great features.

marvmen21 wrote:Agreed with Q, it has some nice features. This is the answer I got when I asked him about why they say it's not based on opencart.
Hello Marvin,


We did not copied Opencart, although we stated on our site, that our MVC code base is made similar to opencart to make opencart developers be familiar with our system right away. This is intentional to allow quicker migration of extensions and data.


If you look at AbanteCart core code, you will notice that it is totally different in architecture and concepts.


Our project was in design and development for 2 years and we have developed core concepts that are totally different from opencart or any other cart in fact.


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Post by Johnathan » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:22 am

Oh please...

Almost ALL of the front-end routes (product/category, product/manufacturer, account/login, account/account, etc.) and back-end routes (catalog/category, catalog/product, sale/customer, sale/contact, report/sale, report/viewed, etc.) are exactly the same. Not to mention, here's the install.txt files:

OPENCART

Code: Select all

1. Upload all the files and folders to your server from the "Upload" folder.
   This can be to anywhere of your choice.
	
   e.g. /public_html/store or /public_html

2. If you have a Linux/Unix make sure the following folders and files are writable.
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/cache/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/data/   
   chmod 0755 or 0777 system/cache/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 system/logs/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 download/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 config.php
   chmod 0755 or 0777 admin/config.php

3. Make sure you have installed a MySQL Database which has a user assigned to it 
   DO NOT USE YOUR ROOT USERNAME AND ROOT PASSWORD

4. Visit the store homepage
   e.g. http://www.example.com or http://www.example.com/store/

5. Follow the onscreen instructions.

6. Delete the install directory after install is complete.


For any support issues please visit: http://www.opencart.com

EOF
ABANTECART

Code: Select all

1. Upload or copy all the files and folders to your server from the "public_html" folder in the archive.
   This can be to anywhere of your choice.
	
   e.g. /public_html/store or /public_html

2. If you have a Linux/Unix make sure the following folders and files are writable.
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/cache/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 image/data/   
   chmod 0755 or 0777 system/cache/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 system/logs/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 download/
   chmod 0755 or 0777 config.php
   chmod 0755 or 0777 admin/config.php

3. Check that you have MySQL Database which has a user assigned to it 
   DO NOT USE YOUR ROOT USERNAME AND ROOT PASSWORD
   Most Hosting Plans include MySQL as part of service

4. Visit the site using browser of your choice
   e.g. http://www.example.com or http://www.example.com/store/

5. Follow the on screen instructions for installation

6. After installation is complete Delete the install directory from your server.


For any support issues please visit forum or documentation at: http://www.AbanteCart.com

EOF
And they didn't copy that? ::) I'm not saying they didn't add some great features, but to claim not to be based on OpenCart (even if it's radically altered) is laughable.

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Post by marvmen21 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:26 am

horrible looking admin
;D I actually like the admin dashboard. :D

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Post by i2Paq » Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:37 pm

I was thinking the name was: AbandonedCart ;D

Just a cheap rip-off and they do not even admit it....
AbanteCart is based on MVC model that is used by some other projects. AbanteCart controllers are similar to OpenCart
It should say:
AbanteCart is based on MVC model that is used by OpenCart, this is done intentional so we can get quicker support from their forums if we have issues.

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Post by Msun » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:26 am

Only the time will confirm if this spinoff will stay alive, but is a good start point to collect good new features for the OpenCart, I liked specially the quick options at catalog > products in admin panel, but not liked the colors and the big icons.

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Post by Raysky » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:14 am

I did not compare all file to file but I see some similarity in code. What I noticed different  is totaly different architecture and core structure as well as different UI.
Some one said here "opencart MVC", MVC is not opencart concept and commonly used by many modern app. developers.
I donot think, we can call abantecart a copy of opencart although i like opencart a lot and use it for 2 year now.
Abantecart has engine on it is own and even if they copied some controllers it does not qualify to be a fork project.
I see alot of small bits of code copied from project to project in many other places. Programming in bloks is very popular due to efficiency.

Let's be hornets, even if abantecart cart did take some code and said that they fork it would not make anybody more happier on this forum.

Code will be copied and improved by others all the time, that is what makes community projects better at the end.

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Post by Qphoria » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:48 am

spinoff.. not copy.
Like zencart is a spinoff of oscommerce
tomato cart is a spinoff of oscommerce
etc

Tho I've heard there is a ton of changes outside of the routing/url aspects.. xml based pages sounds very interesting

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Post by timparnell » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:26 am

I do have to say that look very very very similar...... ::)

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Post by desss » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:49 pm

no guys. it's not spin off. i looked inside of this stuff. They have own, let's to say unique structure and approach.
On my sight all done great. Extensions stored in separate folders and installs very quick and clear. You can install it by file upload or directly from server by net. With core upgrades the same. Input key (or click link from message) and upgrade will start automatically with auto backup before.
I think it's very very interesting project, but it's not opencart fork. They are different.

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Post by i2Paq » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:43 am

desss wrote:no guys. it's not spin off. i looked inside of this stuff. They have own, let's to say unique structure and approach.
On my sight all done great. Extensions stored in separate folders and installs very quick and clear. You can install it by file upload or directly from server by net. With core upgrades the same. Input key (or click link from message) and upgrade will start automatically with auto backup before.
I think it's very very interesting project, but it's not opencart fork. They are different.
So you signed up just to reply to this topic?

Hmmm, makes you wonder ::)

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