Post by xrgb » Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:10 pm

Hi all, I have one simple question about our future - are we moving in the correct direction?
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Maybe its time to make in 3.0 something more useful and actual, than twig integration or built-in marketplace? Its not a secret at all, that OpenCart's popularity is going down from 2014, and if nothing changes, the fate of the osCommerce awaits us :(

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Post by IP_CAM » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:02 am

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well, no wonder, you sound so negative, OC-born on such a lousy date... :laugh:

But to the point, everthing has it's time on earth, but it's an enduring task, to stay
in front. And as longer something exists, as more professionality is required, to
keep a position and so a market share.

Personally, I was rather surprised, finding out, how the OC-Idea worked (so long),
after being around, since the Web exists, and seeing many Projects, eventually
failing, most likely because of unrealistic attempts, to 'combine' financial interests with
Open Source Software and GPL like Ideology, over an extended period of time.

OC is not much different, with one exeption, OC is still a one Man Show, despite of
the fact, that lot's of knowledge probably came from outside people too. And some
of those Helpers also made some money, participating as Extension Seller, whereby
others just turned away again, after not beeing 'honored', or even feeling 'exposed', after
just trying to add some of their 'OC-wisdom', in one or the other way.

It's lost potential, like the only partly functional Forum, or the only partly functional Extension
Section. Not to speak about the masses of Mod-Sellers, seldom or never seen here, to
also assist for free, as they frequently should, according to OC Seller Regulations.

It's therefore hard to guess, how the OC Future will look like. If I would be in charge, I would
probably copy the Magento-Way of doing it, by offering a commercial Version as well as
a free one, it's the cheapest and fastest way, to find problems and errors, without requiring
lot's of paid Testers. And OC could likely still rely on some of the famous Dev's, it they could
rely more on at least having some influence on/to the Project itself.

But depending on 'external' Coders and Mod's, to create the sole income, means depending
on uncontrollable Facts, and no Business will survive in such a way on the long run, those
Coders can be gone by tomorrow, if something new and promising hit's a Market, and there
would not be much left, to eventually fill such a gap again in time, in order to further survive.

In the UK, people would bet on it, I guess. But UK people do many funny things, others
may not understand. So, better just relax, we'll find out, either way. :D

My very personal opinion only, from what I see and read...
Good Luck ;)
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Post by openhwh » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:14 pm

Theme Journal + Open Cart at the moment is one if not the best open carts out there. Magento is bs in terms of modifying it.

Shopify plugins are pricey and 1 per site :) Plus they arent best in terms of SEO?

There are plenty of developers and it does not matter is some come and some go. Code base at the moment is good and flexible.

OC is popular in Russia, there are some extensions there that are not listed there :)

What can be good - some FB groups for a shop owners talking about money making :)

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Post by IP_CAM » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:23 pm

OC is popular in Russia, there are some extensions there that are not listed there

well, this is correct, but OpenCart does not make much profit with the russian/ukrainian scene anyway,
because they do most on/by themselfs. But if a business cannot not make a profit, a business cannot
survive, on longer terms, regardless of, how many developers exist, mostly just trying to get their share.
But I've got some russian Goodies, so, the Knowledge is not all lost for english speaking users, some of
it has already been re-published here, in one or the other form and way ! ;)

But many don't care much about 'legal' matters, even when it comes to 'stolen' knowledge, and such will
endanger any Project, because real DEV's may leave the Scene, full of frustration, and never come
back again.

Also, I doubt, that OC ever made money on JOURNAL Themes, that stuff is most all offered 'outside' of OC,
so, I would understand, if/that OC is looking for new ways. It's not much fun, to work for others, just using
others knowledge, to hopefully get rich quick.

What can be good - some FB groups for a shop owners talking about money making

I doubt it, who would really tell others for free, how to run a successful Online-Shop !? The
Internet is more and more a LOCAL Place, and every new OC User could eventually end up,
beeing in Competition with those, telling him/her their Secrets, only Nut's would do such.
Nut's like me, probably, but I don't even plan, to run an Online-Shop! :laugh:

It's probably one main reason, why most existing Facebook-OC-User Usergroups don't work,
they mostly consist out of Visitors, interested in getting something for nothing, I just visited one
of them yesterday, it has a few thousand Members, but only a handfull of them add's postings,
mostly even regarding commercial Mods.

I am aware of, that all this sounds very negative. But it's not, in Contrary, it's just the way it works,
in real Life at least. OC is no 'Common-Wealth' Project, planned, to make everybody running an
Online-Shop, for as free as possible. And those, not familiar with BUSINESS in daily life, will likely
not succeed with OC either, regardless of a nice looking Journal Theme, or something else... :laugh:
Good Luck!
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Post by IP_CAM » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:27 am

And just to complete this, kind of .... ::)
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I was looking for an extension, after someone made a posting here, and it was priced 30.00 Dollars.
After clicking the link shown to the Seller Site Contact Page, I found the same Extension, but priced
10.00 Dollars (instead of 15.00, as advertized! :laugh: )
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It's just one of those things, adding to the uncertainty, what the future of Opencart may be, without some
strict kind of Controlling and Enforcement, potential misuse is a logical consequence. And such could
eventually be a decisive aspect, when it comes to plan the future of a Project like this.

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