Post by HTMLCSSNoob » Sat Nov 20, 2010 5:21 am

Xsecrets wrote:well the #1 reason is that it would mean moving all that to the db which Daniel doesn't want to do, and there are some good reasons for it.
Well if Daniel doesn't want to do it I imagine that's good enough reason. ;D
Xsecrets wrote:And to me it would just make things harder, because I would still use my ide which means I would have to copy the code and paste it into my text editor and then copy it back into the admin.
You're talking about what YOU would do, not what everyone else would do. Clearly there are people who like to have the ability to customize the CSS in the admin panel as some of the other major opensource projects allow it such as MyBB, phpBB, Wordpress, etc.
Xsecrets wrote:Once you use a decent editor with syntax highlighting code folding etc it becomes painful to try to mess with stuff in a text area on a website.
Imagine you're a noob to OpenCart and have no idea what syntax highlighting and code folding is. To these people it would be easier to edit CSS in the admin. You have to admit man that not everybody who wants to use OpenCart is fluent in FTP and Text Editor programs. There are some people who like being able to modify the CSS in the admin panel because they find it easier than messing with all the 3rd party software... It's basically just more things that you have to learn.

You can say that moving all this to the admin panel would be "dumbing it down". Well maybe, but there are a lot of people who like things to be "dumbed down" because they would rather spend their time you know, actually selling their products....
Xsecrets wrote:As far as the css goes one of the best things about css is that it allows you to make changes universally, if you are going to break it up into sections for every section of the site you might as well just use inline styles.
Not at all. They way I look at it, breaking up the CSS into easy to read sections in the admin panel is the same as someone commenting the heck out of their stylesheets so they are easier to read. For example I'm using the cleaner by default theme, and that theme is commented so nicely that it really makes editing it easy. Not everyone comments their stylesheets so nicely though. In these cases having it broken up nicely in the admin panel just makes it easy for a newbie to work with.

Remember, we are talking about new OpenCart users who are green when it comes to all these things you mention and might not have time to learn all this stuff. quntmphscs mentioned he (or she) only had a couple months to learn the ins and outs of OpenCart (or whatever software he or she chooses) before having to focus on other aspects of work. There are a lot of people who might not even have 2 months to learn everything.

But alas, as you mentioned Daniel doesn't want to move all this to the db, so this argument is probably falling on deaf ears. :-\

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Post by tracyk859 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:58 pm

Thanks for the post.
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Post by petrc » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:51 am

if you don't want to download/upload your files for every single change, then why not run wamp on your pc and install opencart ontop of it. All your changes will reflect immediately, and once you're happy you can do a bulk ftp. :crazy:

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Post by Qphoria » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:50 am

Xsecrets wrote:
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Well I think anyone that uses OpenCart would have to know how to use FTP as I don't believe you can install OpenCart through Fantastico (at least not from my cPanel anyway). My point is that why should a person have to continue to use an FTP client and text editor to modify the theme's stylesheets? You can do almost everything else in the admin panel now, why not add theme modifications to the list?
well the #1 reason is that it would mean moving all that to the db which Daniel doesn't want to do, and there are some good reasons for it. And to me it would just make things harder, because I would still use my ide which means I would have to copy the code and paste it into my text editor and then copy it back into the admin. Once you use a decent editor with syntax highlighting code folding etc it becomes painful to try to mess with stuff in a text area on a website. As far as the css goes one of the best things about css is that it allows you to make changes universally, if you are going to break it up into sections for every section of the site you might as well just use inline styles.
Most admin editors just load the text files anyway.. this is certainly possible for opencart, in fact I have a module for it just about done that will allow you to edit any file and save it.

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Post by MikeUK » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:39 am

collector wrote:Yeah, that fly-to-basket is cool and good for the customer to see just where their order went.
I find it interesting that this is considered a positive. If I built a site with Prestashop, I would turn that off. I think PS have actually made a mistake including such a feature.

Why? Because it will act as a sign - 'This is a Prestashop site' - much like the old, very familiar layout of OsCommerce, the image zoom in Magento. Not all developers will won't want it to be so obvious that they based a site on a particular system.

I think all these small things, image zoom / magnify, js / jquery effects, should be covered by extensions or plugins so the scope of display possibilies can be increased, and the code base is kept to what it should be - a shopping cart. This also gives extension developers something to aim at.

Drupal has proved that if the base is strong and workable, the rest will work itself out. And this is where I think OpenCart is strong.

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Post by memboxlee » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:54 pm

This is the short way and it should be like this. open cart is fast and easy to modify. Plus user friendly admin panel. Good for clients/non developers.

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Post by macklinvinger » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:43 pm

Opencart is a opensource shopping cart. This is very user friendly and very easy to use.

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