Post by neschalk » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:05 am

Daniel,

Are you limiting the SSL to only the domain now? no possibility for the shared environment anymore?
Last edited by i2Paq on Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:34 am, edited 2 times in total.
Reason: Split from OpenCart 1.4.2

User avatar
Newbie

Posts

Joined
Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:28 am


Post by Qphoria » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:30 am

There never was support for shared. but I think he did say it would be global and per-store

Image
Donate!|OpenCart Basics|GeoZones
Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by Daniel » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:33 am

neschalk wrote:Daniel,

Are you limiting the SSL to only the domain now? no possibility for the shared environment anymore?

Because the way cookies work there has never been shared SSL support. also shared SSL is hardly ever going to be secure when you are sharing an install. to be honest if you \are running a ecommerce business you should have your own SSL. this sort of thing is not expensive for a business.

OpenCart®
Project Owner & Developer.


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Post by cmebd » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:17 am

Daniel wrote:
neschalk wrote:Daniel,
if you \are running a ecommerce business you should have your own SSL. this sort of thing is not expensive for a business.
No necessarily so Daniel. Some are start up businesses (that obviously are looking for the most cost effective way to start) having to purchase an SSL certificate is not inexpensive when you run a small e-commerce business and makes the costs fairly prohibitive for some.

A stupid question is the one you -don't- ask.........(Anon)

)C1.5.0.1 (IN devel)
OC V1.4.9.5
OC V1.4.9.2
OC V1.4.7
OC V1.3.4


User avatar
Active Member

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am
Location - Tasmania, Australia

Post by Xsecrets » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:58 am

cmebd wrote:
Daniel wrote:
neschalk wrote:Daniel,
if you \are running a ecommerce business you should have your own SSL. this sort of thing is not expensive for a business.
No necessarily so Daniel. Some are start up businesses (that obviously are looking for the most cost effective way to start) having to purchase an SSL certificate is not inexpensive when you run a small e-commerce business and makes the costs fairly prohibitive for some.
if $30 is cost prohibitive then you probably shouldn't be running an ecommerce store.

OpenCart commercial mods and development http://spotonsolutions.net
Layered Navigation
Shipment Tracking
Vehicle Year/Make/Model Filter


Guru Member

Posts

Joined
Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:51 am
Location - FL US

Post by cmebd » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:17 pm

Xsecrets wrote:
if $30 is cost prohibitive then you probably shouldn't be running an ecommerce store.
OK where do you buy a $30 SSL certificate that is worth anything? AND don't get personal in your responses - not good practice on a public forum. Don't bother answering if you have nothing of value to offer!!

A stupid question is the one you -don't- ask.........(Anon)

)C1.5.0.1 (IN devel)
OC V1.4.9.5
OC V1.4.9.2
OC V1.4.7
OC V1.3.4


User avatar
Active Member

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am
Location - Tasmania, Australia

Post by rph » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:33 pm

cmebd wrote:OK where do you buy a $30 SSL certificate that is worth anything?
Versus what? I believe my work pays $45/year through our host for a 256-bit SSL certificate registered to our domain. It's not extended validation (which is a lot more expensive) but customers are demanding that yet.

-Ryan


rph
Expert Member

Posts

Joined
Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:05 am
Location - Lincoln, Nebraska

Post by okstated » Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:35 pm

GoDaddy has a basic SSL certificate that is very cheap and even comes free with it's shared hosting.

If you are concerned about a cheap SSL certificate being worth anything you might also have to ask what shared SSL certificates are worth. Even less.

Clearly this should not be a problem.

New member

Posts

Joined
Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:22 am

Post by OrBeX » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:06 pm

cmebd wrote:
Xsecrets wrote:
if $30 is cost prohibitive then you probably shouldn't be running an ecommerce store.
OK where do you buy a $30 SSL certificate that is worth anything? AND don't get personal in your responses - not good practice on a public forum. Don't bother answering if you have nothing of value to offer!!

Check out OpenSSL for a free SSL cert...

If U R Confused, U R Not Paying Attention !
- www.clsystems.nl -


Newbie

Posts

Joined
Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:57 pm

Post by migz » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:52 pm

I got a free SSL from namecheap. comes with free domain

Active Member

Posts

Joined
Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:13 am

Post by Daniel » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:03 pm

To get opencart to work accross shared ssl domain names would mean i would need to store the sessions in the DB. I like to keep things simpel and not have to drag the db class into the session class.

OpenCart®
Project Owner & Developer.


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:57 pm

Post by Qphoria » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:02 pm

cmebd wrote:
Xsecrets wrote:
if $30 is cost prohibitive then you probably shouldn't be running an ecommerce store.
OK where do you buy a $30 SSL certificate that is worth anything? AND don't get personal in your responses - not good practice on a public forum. Don't bother answering if you have nothing of value to offer!!
It's true tho :)
And GoDaddy ssls are sub-$20 and they work fine

Image
Donate!|OpenCart Basics|GeoZones
Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by peteVA » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:31 pm

Qphoria wrote: It's true tho :)
And GoDaddy ssls are sub-$20 and they work fine
I haven't looked today, but I've installed a couple of GoDaddy SSL my hosting clients have bought at $9.95USD.

You will need a dedicated IP, as well, usually in the $20 per year range, so $30 per year, overall. If you don't have that you have no business being in business.

A Trusted Wholesale Dropshipper
Web Hosting Under $ 5.00 Month! FREE Shopping Carts!
25,000+ Real Wholesale & Dropship Sources!


User avatar
Active Member

Posts

Joined
Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:25 am

Post by Qphoria » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:24 am

Amen

Image
Donate!|OpenCart Basics|GeoZones
Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by Qphoria » Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:19 am

My host offers a free dedicated ip for one domain. I use their reseller service so I can host unlimited sites for $12/mo. They are great and support is excellent

So hosting and security should be the easiest things to afford

Image
Donate!|OpenCart Basics|GeoZones
Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am

Post by cmebd » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:25 am

Daniel wrote:To get opencart to work accross shared ssl domain names would mean i would need to store the sessions in the DB. I like to keep things simpel and not have to drag the db class into the session class.
Thanks Daniel, appreciate the information.

A stupid question is the one you -don't- ask.........(Anon)

)C1.5.0.1 (IN devel)
OC V1.4.9.5
OC V1.4.9.2
OC V1.4.7
OC V1.3.4


User avatar
Active Member

Posts

Joined
Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:17 am
Location - Tasmania, Australia

Post by i2Paq » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:37 am

Because this discussion should be in its own topic I've split all the relevant replys from the OpenCart 1.4.2 topic and moved it here.

Norman in 't Veldt
Moderator OpenCart Forums

_________________ READ and Search BEFORE POSTING _________________

Our FREE search: Find your answer FAST!.

[How to] BTW + Verzend + betaal setup.


User avatar
Global Moderator

Posts

Joined
Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:00 pm
Location - Winkel - The Netherlands

Post by twiggy » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:43 am

cmebd wrote:
Daniel wrote:
neschalk wrote:Daniel,
if you \are running a ecommerce business you should have your own SSL. this sort of thing is not expensive for a business.
No necessarily so Daniel. Some are start up businesses (that obviously are looking for the most cost effective way to start) having to purchase an SSL certificate is not inexpensive when you run a small e-commerce business and makes the costs fairly prohibitive for some.
The opencart software is free, you can run it on a shared host for $5 a month. How cheap do you want it?

At $30 a year for an ssl its hardly bank busting. The only people this will effect is kids selling pirated ebooks and music with an online store. I hardly think $30 will bother any individual never mind a start-up business with a nice fresh business loan.

Active Member

Posts

Joined
Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:43 am


Post by neschalk » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:07 am

Ok, I think it's safe to say we are all in support of dedicated ssl, (and it's advantages/security/etc.) I guess my point is that, regardless of what we may prefer, there are many people out there on shared hosting (and vhosts) that want an easy store to work with but don't want to change their hosting.

So dedicated SSL = best option. Shared SSL = an option that 'could' be.

I really hate to push these clients into zen-cart/os-commerce. If this is out all together as a future possibility that's fine (and understandable.) If its a module that can be built that would be pretty sweet. I know a few of us here would love to send the clients into your environment.

User avatar
Newbie

Posts

Joined
Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:28 am


Post by Qphoria » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:36 am

There is a shared ssl mod on the forums somewhere.

Image
Donate!|OpenCart Basics|GeoZones
Image


User avatar
Administrator

Posts

Joined
Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 am
Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 13 guests