Post by atnaples » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:02 pm

OSWorX wrote:
atnaples wrote:.. but i would expect sometimes that people tested some new "great" features before make them available for public ..
Tell that Daniel!
once i offered to add some free/paid mods in release to save time and make opencart is real one, but i think it's more "ide" for amazon/e-bay integration.

multi store/domain are in stone age:
- cannot setup modules per store (i did it by myself)... i might be wrong
- no transactional database for big db (that's one of the reason people get 'mysql is gone')
- copy/paste in mail, api...
- session on cookies :-( - crossdomains does not work (NONSSL - one domain, SSL - different or subdomain)

etc. i think everybody will be happy, less problems with mods

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Post by gilaraujo » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:51 pm

I cant but keep wondering, when will 2.0.2 ready for real world deployment! ???

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Post by atnaples » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:01 pm

gilaraujo wrote:I cant but keep wondering, when will 2.0.2 ready for real world deployment! ???
after a couple days with debugger and merger... i have one installed

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Post by gilaraujo » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:03 pm

atnaples wrote:
gilaraujo wrote:I cant but keep wondering, when will 2.0.2 ready for real world deployment! ???
after a couple days with debugger and merger... i have one installed
I meant for us mear mortals that have to trust the release packadge and cant code even if our life depended on it! :laugh:

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Post by atnaples » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:33 pm

gilaraujo wrote: I meant for us mear mortals that have to trust the release packadge and cant code even if our life depended on it! :laugh:
that would be nice, but there is a difference between showing your skills and make something for others...
- language - everybody knows
- ocmod still not working
- ftp is required, wordpress and jumla are not required this
- paypal express is still losing a logo, promised that it was fixed
- changed settings... pass $this to Mail() constructor...

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Post by RHTDM » Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:44 pm

Why open cart not offer category based product at homepage module built in :(

Also why there is no free marketplace option in open cart?

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Post by tabook » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:46 pm

Why oc_order_download table was removed ?

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Post by atnaples » Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:12 pm

looking at 2.02 and 2.2 (beta/rc): guys have no clear idea where they are moving... it should be 'alpha' not rc
- adding/removing within week(s) 'minimum' in contollers/templates, good idea, but it's gone
- flushing in toilet most ocmods by changing how it works
.. and more

there is only question: what's the hell?

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Post by i2Paq » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:38 am

atnaples wrote:looking at 2.02 and 2.2 (beta/rc): guys have no clear idea where they are moving... it should be 'alpha' not rc
- adding/removing within week(s) 'minimum' in contollers/templates, good idea, but it's gone
- flushing in toilet most ocmods by changing how it works
.. and more

there is only question: what's the hell?
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Post by atnaples » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:01 am

in this case "Road To Hell" will better fit situations... In Russian, usually say something like: "they are like a shit on the water"... no direction, chaos...

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Post by OSWorX » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:02 am

i2Paq wrote:In this case: That's Opencart....
No, unfortunetaly only Daniel.

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Post by atnaples » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:07 am

Daniel seems to live in his own world but, he is more Clue, not Creator... he put not bad MVC engine under the hood, but right now, there is no documentations about new features, he implement them for his own needs... Version 2.0 was promising... 2.0.1 - all we new was upside-down, 2.0.2 - oh my god, 2.0.2.1(neta/rc) - ... shit, changed again... focused only openbay/amazon...

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Post by rph » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:14 am

i2Paq wrote:Free to a song by Frank Sinatra:
That's life, that's what people say
You're riding high in April,
Shot down in May
In this case: That's Opencart....
The problem for OpenCart is the number of e-commerce solutions is growing. This type of development cycle is not sustainable long term.

ocMod's documentation is incomplete and erroneous, it has backward compatibility breaks without warning, and it's painfully slow and tedious to develop with (I can create a small website with Silex in the time it takes to write and test an ocMod script with modest functionality). And that's just a fraction of the issues facing OpenCart.

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Post by yodapt » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:21 am

rph wrote:The problem for OpenCart is the number of e-commerce solutions is growing.
If OpenCart was a decent piece of software with an active developing community, it wouldn't matter.

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Post by atnaples » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:33 am

make a pause... look around what other guys added (for free)... add to the core, stop using copy/paste to multiply bugs... and it will be good again.

i have, personally, two production servers with 2.0.* (heavy modified) installed, but getting tired...

OpenCart looks as gene pig for another project... I might be wrong, but bigCommerce (sorry if i misspelled) looks in structure/logic/design so familiar.

too many solutions is not always bad...

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Post by sk786 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:15 am

rph wrote:That upgrade script doesn't work. It should have been removed (or moved to another branch) for the initial 2.x release but here we are.

For anyone who uses ocMod, there's been an unpublished backwards compatibility break. Dynamic pathing using braces will no longer work. The new method is using comma delimited full paths. So code like:

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<file path="system/{engine,library}/{action,loader,config,language}.php">
must be updated to:

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<file path="system/engine/action.php,system/engine/loader.php,system/library/config.php,system/library/language.php">
Can you make a post about this and pin it? Because if you assume everything is "how it should be" you would be blind to the problem..

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Post by JAY6390 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:33 am

sk786 wrote:Because if you assume everything is "how it should be" you would be blind to the problem..
Please don't ever expect that with OpenCart :laugh:

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Post by sk786 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 12:38 pm

JAY6390 wrote:
sk786 wrote:Because if you assume everything is "how it should be" you would be blind to the problem..
Please don't ever expect that with OpenCart :laugh:
Okay, I'm listening and I care. Why do devs stick with OpenCart instead of another e-commerce?

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Post by yodapt » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:32 pm

sk786 wrote: Okay, I'm listening and I care. Why do devs stick with OpenCart instead of another e-commerce?
Because clients stick to OpenCart.

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Post by atnaples » Sat Apr 18, 2015 3:06 pm

yodapt wrote:
sk786 wrote: Okay, I'm listening and I care. Why do devs stick with OpenCart instead of another e-commerce?
Because clients stick to OpenCart.
ii can do something for my own two sites, but if i tell my client that opencart was a wrong choice for three his stores, i would have to look for another client :-(

... and the ideas were/are not too bad:
- multi-domain/store (still only idea)
- most of standard features such as coupons, discounts, guest checkout, etc. build-in
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