Post by YDA » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:34 am

Hi,
Is someone on this forum have heard about a new french law relating to a mandatory certified software on 01/01/2018 and is it applicable to all e-commerce software like Opencart.
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Post by thekrotek » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:37 am

Which kind of certification are we talking about? I'm not sure, it's applicable to ALL software, because sometimes it simply not worth it. Also you can always tell any law to fk off and ignore it :-)

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Post by YDA » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:28 am

Hi,
Thank you for your answer and I'll try to explian this brand new law in details.
France had voted a special law saying that every e-commerce site must be able to certify as an EDITOR any software like Opencart, Os Commerce and so on.
Saying that any webmaster using and selling an Opencart solution (as an Open Source Solution) MUST be able to give a certificate saying that all the connections, payments and databases .....are certified by a secure solution (meaning a french solution) . I don't know if you do speak french , pleas do follow this link and you'll understand very about what I am speaking about: https://www.l-expert-comptable.com/a/53 ... 2018.html] and please let me know what you did understand.
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Post by thekrotek » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:48 am

I know the basics of French, cad read, understand and say a few things, but it's definitely not enough to read such documents.

What do you mean exactly under "certified by a secure solution (meaning a french solution)"? Which "solution"? It sound quite confusing to me and still not clear, what this certificate is about. What exactly it should certify?

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Post by Burt65 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:08 am

YDA wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:34 am
Hi,
Is someone on this forum have heard about a new french law relating to a mandatory certified software on 01/01/2018 and is it applicable to all e-commerce software like Opencart.
Many thanks for your answers.
YDA
Considering that there is a French section on this forum, you may want to try there first, as I don't think the rest of the world would really know much or care about a new French law...

Unless you are referring off course to the law that has been pass in the EU, coming up in May, regarding safer customer (sensitive data), that is not really a news...

Your posted link, point to a Page not found BTW...

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Post by psxgamer » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:42 am

It has nothing to do with e-commerce software but with cash registers.

We've had a simular law in Belgium. Everybody in the HORECA (hotel, restaurant, café) needed to get a "white" cash register. This to prevent "black" sales (non declared sales and unpaid VAT).

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Post by gob33 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:56 pm

Article 88 of french law 2015-1785 applies to Points Of Sales, but can be the case if you use a POS module with your OC.
Prestashop seems more aware of the problem than OC.
The POS must have certification NF525.

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Post by gob33 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:31 am

Rectification: According to this official document (point 9), all e-commerce softwares having customers paying VAT should conform to the certfification NF525.

So basicaly, OC will be illegal in France starting 01/01/2018.

Reading the various documents from official sources, it appears that the risk weighing on e-commerce sites, mainly those using CMS Open-source (Magento, PrestaShop ....) and developed in-house has never been so heavy. Any slightest change in a version, as long as it potentially calls into question the compulsory mechanisms that have been certified, must be certified again, or the publisher must produce a new certificate. The addition of a non-certified module, the modification of sources, an in-depth parameterization of the software is potentially a modification requiring the production of a "major" version in the administrative sense of the term.

Open source software (and software developed in-house) will not be certifiable, or at least not at acceptable costs for small businesses or SMEs. The law effectively prohibits small businesses and SMEs from setting up and adapting an open-source CMS, or from writing their own e-commerce software. The e-commerce sites using these solutions are unable to comply with the obligations of the law, resulting in a fine of 7.500 EUR every 60 days.
See: 83% des sites e-commerce potentiellement dans l’illégalité au 1er janvier 2018

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Post by gob33 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:50 am

A recent page in english describing the new law for french merchants.
All open source e-commerce softwares not certified NF525 by INFOCERT or LNE become illegal in France.

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